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AinurOlorin
Half-elven
Apr 18 2013, 4:17am
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For over A Thousand years Moria had but one true lord. . . and, much as I love Balin, it wasn't Balin son of Fundin.
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The Balrog was the only master in Moria, and all things that lived there, even unto the likes of Azog, lived there on his limited mercy. Durin he slew, and Nain. . . Madness drove Thror to Moria. . . they will have to explain what drove Balin there, though I have some ideas. I was having a hard time sleeping last night and for whatever reason I started thinking about the film's portrayal of Balin and how to reconcile that with the fact that he goes on to lead a company of dwarves to reclaim Moria some years after the BO5A. After his whole "You don't have to do this" speech to Thorin in Bag End I'm seriously wondering what his motivation would be, because it doesn't seem to fit with his characterization thus far. Unless something happens in the next two films that causes a drastic change in the old dwarf's personality I just can't see him spearheading something so dangerous, so obviously doomed to failure. It seems like he'd be satisfied with defeating Smaug and deeply saddened by the deaths of Thorin & his nephews (if they do indeed die in the final film, which I doubt even PJ would have the gall to alter) so why would he want to risk more lives at his age on such a desperate quest? The only reason I can come up with is that some younger dwarf (or dwarves) gets the idea in his head and Balin goes along with it out of a sense of loyalty and a desire to protect him/them. Of course we'll probably never see any of that, so again I ask how does that fit with his portrayal in the film? It just doesn't make sense to me "Hear me, hounds of Sauron, Gandalf is here! Fly if you value your foul skins, I will shrivel you from tail to snout if you step within this circle!" "Do not be to eager to deal out death in judgement. Even the very wise cannot see all ends."
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Balin, Lord of Moria?
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Syzygy
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Apr 17 2013, 3:36am
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Someone else came up with a good motivation for Balin...
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Salmacis81
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Apr 17 2013, 4:21am
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Was it Durin's Bane?
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Patty
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Apr 17 2013, 4:33am
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Rings?
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MomoftheShire
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Apr 17 2013, 11:28am
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Though it is true that Balin went to Moria to find The Ring of Thror. The King's
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AinurOlorin
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Apr 18 2013, 4:19am
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RE: Durin's Bane
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easterlingchief1
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Apr 17 2013, 1:25pm
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Whoops. I was thinking of Isildur's bane The one ring. Sorry.
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Patty
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Apr 17 2013, 10:51pm
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Twas I
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AinurOlorin
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Apr 18 2013, 4:17am
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Here it was. . . Dain, Balin. . . The Balrog of Moria, Bane of Durin, Terror of Durin's Folk, shadow of Fear upon even blessed Lothlorien.
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AinurOlorin
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Apr 18 2013, 4:31am
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Yep, that was the one
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Salmacis81
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Apr 19 2013, 1:14am
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I hope they take one of these routes. The Balrog of Moria needs mentioning
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AinurOlorin
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Apr 19 2013, 3:09am
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This is indeed Puzzling
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Tinkerbell
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Apr 17 2013, 4:43am
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Real history indeed!
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Syzygy
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Apr 17 2013, 5:24am
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This should never happen!!!!
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Smeagol Bagginsess
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Apr 17 2013, 5:59am
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agreed
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Tinkerbell
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Apr 17 2013, 6:08am
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In addition
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Tinkerbell
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Apr 17 2013, 6:47am
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Oh no...
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Sinister71
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Apr 17 2013, 1:28pm
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From the Book...the last pages...
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Bombadil
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Apr 17 2013, 1:43pm
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At his age?
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dormouse
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Apr 17 2013, 7:42am
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Balin
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Glorfindela
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Apr 17 2013, 9:23am
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Welcome, Syzygy!
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Roheryn
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Apr 17 2013, 11:30am
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Makes perfect sense, but...
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Syzygy
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Apr 18 2013, 2:05am
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"There was on I could follow. There was one I coud call king."
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Brego93
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Apr 17 2013, 11:54am
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Moria
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Elessar
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Apr 17 2013, 3:17pm
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Agreed
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nhui06
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Apr 17 2013, 4:32pm
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I loved Balin's portrayal
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Radagast-Aiwendil
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Apr 17 2013, 9:00pm
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A lot of water has flowed under the Bridge at Khazad Dum
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IdrilofGondolin
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Apr 17 2013, 10:20pm
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For over A Thousand years Moria had but one true lord. . . and, much as I love Balin, it wasn't Balin son of Fundin.
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AinurOlorin
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Apr 18 2013, 4:17am
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All nice ideas
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Rostron2
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Apr 19 2013, 6:05pm
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Before the leaks and clips. . . did you see Radagast smacking down The Witch King in
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AinurOlorin
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Apr 20 2013, 10:31pm
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