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For over A Thousand years Moria had but one true lord. . . and, much as I love Balin, it wasn't Balin son of Fundin.

AinurOlorin
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Apr 18 2013, 4:17am


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For over A Thousand years Moria had but one true lord. . . and, much as I love Balin, it wasn't Balin son of Fundin. [In reply to] Can't Post

The Balrog was the only master in Moria, and all things that lived there, even unto the likes of Azog, lived there on his limited mercy. Durin he slew, and Nain. . . Madness drove Thror to Moria. . . they will have to explain what drove Balin there, though I have some ideas.

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I was having a hard time sleeping last night and for whatever reason I started thinking about the film's portrayal of Balin and how to reconcile that with the fact that he goes on to lead a company of dwarves to reclaim Moria some years after the BO5A. After his whole "You don't have to do this" speech to Thorin in Bag End I'm seriously wondering what his motivation would be, because it doesn't seem to fit with his characterization thus far. Unless something happens in the next two films that causes a drastic change in the old dwarf's personality I just can't see him spearheading something so dangerous, so obviously doomed to failure. It seems like he'd be satisfied with defeating Smaug and deeply saddened by the deaths of Thorin & his nephews (if they do indeed die in the final film, which I doubt even PJ would have the gall to alter) so why would he want to risk more lives at his age on such a desperate quest?

The only reason I can come up with is that some younger dwarf (or dwarves) gets the idea in his head and Balin goes along with it out of a sense of loyalty and a desire to protect him/them. Of course we'll probably never see any of that, so again I ask how does that fit with his portrayal in the film? It just doesn't make sense to me Crazy


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Balin, Lord of Moria? Syzygy Send a private message to Syzygy Apr 17 2013, 3:36am
    Someone else came up with a good motivation for Balin... Salmacis81 Send a private message to Salmacis81 Apr 17 2013, 4:21am
        Was it Durin's Bane? Patty Send a private message to Patty Apr 17 2013, 4:33am
            Rings? MomoftheShire Send a private message to MomoftheShire Apr 17 2013, 11:28am
                Though it is true that Balin went to Moria to find The Ring of Thror. The King's AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Apr 18 2013, 4:19am
            RE: Durin's Bane easterlingchief1 Send a private message to easterlingchief1 Apr 17 2013, 1:25pm
                Whoops. I was thinking of Isildur's bane The one ring. Sorry. Patty Send a private message to Patty Apr 17 2013, 10:51pm
        Twas I AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Apr 18 2013, 4:17am
        Here it was. . . Dain, Balin. . . The Balrog of Moria, Bane of Durin, Terror of Durin's Folk, shadow of Fear upon even blessed Lothlorien. AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Apr 18 2013, 4:31am
            Yep, that was the one Salmacis81 Send a private message to Salmacis81 Apr 19 2013, 1:14am
                I hope they take one of these routes. The Balrog of Moria needs mentioning AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Apr 19 2013, 3:09am
    This is indeed Puzzling Tinkerbell Send a private message to Tinkerbell Apr 17 2013, 4:43am
        Real history indeed! Syzygy Send a private message to Syzygy Apr 17 2013, 5:24am
            This should never happen!!!! Smeagol Bagginsess Send a private message to Smeagol Bagginsess Apr 17 2013, 5:59am
                agreed Tinkerbell Send a private message to Tinkerbell Apr 17 2013, 6:08am
                In addition Tinkerbell Send a private message to Tinkerbell Apr 17 2013, 6:47am
            Oh no... Sinister71 Send a private message to Sinister71 Apr 17 2013, 1:28pm
                From the Book...the last pages... Bombadil Send a private message to Bombadil Apr 17 2013, 1:43pm
    At his age? dormouse Send a private message to dormouse Apr 17 2013, 7:42am
    Balin Glorfindela Send a private message to Glorfindela Apr 17 2013, 9:23am
    Welcome, Syzygy! Roheryn Send a private message to Roheryn Apr 17 2013, 11:30am
        Makes perfect sense, but... Syzygy Send a private message to Syzygy Apr 18 2013, 2:05am
    "There was on I could follow. There was one I coud call king." Brego93 Send a private message to Brego93 Apr 17 2013, 11:54am
    Moria Elessar Send a private message to Elessar Apr 17 2013, 3:17pm
        Agreed nhui06 Send a private message to nhui06 Apr 17 2013, 4:32pm
    I loved Balin's portrayal Radagast-Aiwendil Send a private message to Radagast-Aiwendil Apr 17 2013, 9:00pm
        A lot of water has flowed under the Bridge at Khazad Dum IdrilofGondolin Send a private message to IdrilofGondolin Apr 17 2013, 10:20pm
    For over A Thousand years Moria had but one true lord. . . and, much as I love Balin, it wasn't Balin son of Fundin. AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Apr 18 2013, 4:17am
    All nice ideas Rostron2 Send a private message to Rostron2 Apr 19 2013, 6:05pm
        Before the leaks and clips. . . did you see Radagast smacking down The Witch King in AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Apr 20 2013, 10:31pm

 
 
 

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