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ashnazg

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Apr 4 2013, 11:15pm


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I see your point. And i think i agree. while so much is given in the film, for example in the prologues, you
can't really part with any of it imo. i am under the impression that what is seen doesn't always need to be said, and vice
versa, depending on the situation, but i think the dialogue given with the visual is indispensible. it may seem perhaps, unconventionally
presented and balance only because this is part one of a story with two more parts to follow. as a story as a whole, the prologues hit all the right
notes. it may just seem a little clunky at first. even thrain, in his short cameos, is brilliant Tongue when taken into context of the whole story, seen in three installments.
in this way, it might be helpful to think of AUJ not as AUJ in the same way as Fellowship of the Ring, but rather as the Hobbit: Part1. not only is auj meant to be seen in and of itself,
but also is meant to be seen as its place amidst the whole story. that is, the makers didn't concede certain points in auj in order to present a more conventional layout of a single film with
the prologue in proportion to it's climax and conclusion. it's not a prologue for An Unexpected Journey only, but rather a prologue for the Hobbit as a whole.
In my opinion, taking this into account allows all the more for the story to unwind and engross.
so if it helps, one might think of AUJ with all it's plot lines and their inclusive substance not as merely advancing AUJ itself but advancing the Hobbit. That is AUJ is merely Hobbit Part 1. that is, auj
cannot be fully understood, cinematically, until is has it's end, which is not in auj itself; auj's end is in TABA. auj might feel awkward because its fulfillment is in the other two parts lol. this all might be common
sense, but i just think it kind of helps to better understand the story's breadth and narrative flow when keeping it in context of being 1/3 of a continuous story. i'll keep telling myself this haha.
it's maybe strange that one thinks a scene could do without, but then when you think about it, the scene really can't do without even when it concerns minor details. I think the other two parts
will better illuminate this. it's just my two cents.
does anyone agree with anything in this post? hehe

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What do we know about Jabez Olseen..PJ's Editor? Bombadil Send a private message to Bombadil Apr 4 2013, 9:00am
    What do you want to know about him? Starling Send a private message to Starling Apr 4 2013, 10:03am
    well... Hamfast of Gamwich Send a private message to Hamfast of Gamwich Apr 4 2013, 11:07am
        thanks for that Valandil ed Imladris Send a private message to Valandil ed Imladris Apr 4 2013, 11:26am
        That scene will make more sense in the EE AshNazg Send a private message to AshNazg Apr 4 2013, 1:07pm
            how do you know this? Hamfast of Gamwich Send a private message to Hamfast of Gamwich Apr 4 2013, 5:10pm
                Because if you listen to the extended version of the soundtrack AshNazg Send a private message to AshNazg Apr 4 2013, 5:51pm
                    Interesting theory Hamfast of Gamwich Send a private message to Hamfast of Gamwich Apr 4 2013, 7:02pm
        Those scenes are actually quite important, I think... Osskil Send a private message to Osskil Apr 4 2013, 8:08pm
            well... Hamfast of Gamwich Send a private message to Hamfast of Gamwich Apr 4 2013, 8:46pm
            Yes, I thought they were important also Loresilme Send a private message to Loresilme Apr 4 2013, 10:53pm
    editor jimmyfenn Send a private message to jimmyfenn Apr 4 2013, 12:15pm
    Whoever he is Lusitano Send a private message to Lusitano Apr 4 2013, 1:28pm
        editor Black Breathalizer Send a private message to Black Breathalizer Apr 4 2013, 1:49pm
            film editing axecrazy Send a private message to axecrazy Apr 4 2013, 2:31pm
            Nobodys professionalism is in question Lusitano Send a private message to Lusitano Apr 4 2013, 5:29pm
                Bloated? What?! AshNazg Send a private message to AshNazg Apr 4 2013, 5:42pm
                    Since The Two towers Lusitano Send a private message to Lusitano Apr 4 2013, 8:47pm
                    ashnazg Tinkerbell Send a private message to Tinkerbell Apr 4 2013, 11:15pm
                    Every scene was necessary? Elenorflower Send a private message to Elenorflower Apr 5 2013, 11:48am
                        Editors and editing Noria Send a private message to Noria Apr 5 2013, 12:32pm
                            My feelings exactly! Old Toby Send a private message to Old Toby Apr 5 2013, 4:55pm
                                MODS UP // Brethil Send a private message to Brethil Apr 5 2013, 4:58pm
                            I am correct in thinking that an editor works for and is hired by the director Magpie Send a private message to Magpie Apr 5 2013, 5:06pm
            I agree with you, BB. Lissuin Send a private message to Lissuin Apr 4 2013, 9:00pm
        Totally Agree Sinister71 Send a private message to Sinister71 Apr 4 2013, 3:23pm
            That's the problem with your opinion droidsocket Send a private message to droidsocket Apr 4 2013, 3:48pm
            No, that's the job of the various producers and the studio axecrazy Send a private message to axecrazy Apr 4 2013, 5:23pm
                A reminder to everyone Ataahua Send a private message to Ataahua Apr 4 2013, 6:26pm
        In Jabez's defense easterlingchief1 Send a private message to easterlingchief1 Apr 4 2013, 4:19pm
            Smeeaaaagol Mooseboy018 Send a private message to Mooseboy018 Apr 4 2013, 8:06pm
                It was in an interview she did in the UK easterlingchief1 Send a private message to easterlingchief1 Apr 4 2013, 8:26pm
                    It's from the Empire magazine podcast Hamfast of Gamwich Send a private message to Hamfast of Gamwich Apr 4 2013, 8:38pm
    Staying on topic axecrazy Send a private message to axecrazy Apr 4 2013, 1:38pm
    He was assistant editor on TTT elaen32 Send a private message to elaen32 Apr 4 2013, 3:55pm
    He's the editor on the film easterlingchief1 Send a private message to easterlingchief1 Apr 4 2013, 4:10pm
        40 Years ago (1973) Bomby was Shooting, Processing and Editing...TV NEWS Bombadil Send a private message to Bombadil Apr 5 2013, 1:54pm
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