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MouthofSauron
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Mar 30 2013, 5:07pm
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i agree, although i wish the High Fells were on the AUJ EE because its going to have to be a flashback now because they are beyond the misty mountains, unless Gandalf travels back to Rivendell for another white council meeting and stops by the High Fells.
take me down to the woodland realm where the trees are green and the elf women are pretty....Oh will you please take me home!!
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User
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Time
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All problems in AUJ are linked to the 3 movie decision.
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GiantMushroomBear
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Mar 30 2013, 4:23am
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Sorry
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Kangi Ska
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Mar 30 2013, 4:40am
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It was much too late
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GiantMushroomBear
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Mar 30 2013, 4:49am
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I just can't tell sometimes,
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Magpie
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Mar 30 2013, 4:54am
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Oh I believe the post was serious
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Kangi Ska
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Mar 30 2013, 5:00am
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I'm not.
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GiantMushroomBear
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Mar 30 2013, 5:00am
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pretty sure...
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tarasaurus
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Mar 30 2013, 5:05am
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Time travel?
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pulpfiction16
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Mar 30 2013, 7:51am
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No, I'm happy with three films
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emre43
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Mar 30 2013, 8:53am
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good points
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MouthofSauron
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Mar 30 2013, 5:07pm
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I was totally psyched when I heard...
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Salmacis81
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Mar 30 2013, 7:18pm
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But Tolkien never explained what Gandalf was doing nor what exactly happened at Dol Guldur so hardly rewritten :s
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emre43
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Mar 30 2013, 8:03pm
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He never explained what he was doing?
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Salmacis81
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Mar 30 2013, 8:24pm
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Basically
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Glorfindela
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Mar 30 2013, 8:42pm
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Keeping the heart
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Elessar
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Mar 30 2013, 9:32pm
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Yes, me to
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Glorfindela
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Mar 30 2013, 10:36pm
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I agree with all your points Glorfindela (and you agreeing with Elessar)
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Brethil
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Mar 30 2013, 11:32pm
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I'm with ya
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Elessar
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Mar 31 2013, 6:27am
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yepp
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tarasaurus
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Mar 31 2013, 3:00pm
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No, he did not explain what Gandalf was doing
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emre43
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Mar 30 2013, 9:04pm
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Are you saying....
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Salmacis81
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Mar 30 2013, 10:20pm
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the timelines between the appendixes & films make it confusing
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MouthofSauron
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Mar 30 2013, 10:57pm
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Saruman knows what's going on all right, he's just hiding his true mind
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sycorax82
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Mar 30 2013, 11:36pm
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I've been wondering about Radagast
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cats16
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Mar 30 2013, 11:50pm
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In the Hobbit book it is NOT known what Gandalf is dealing with
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Sinister71
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Mar 30 2013, 11:50pm
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I did not say that he mentioned the name Sauron,
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Salmacis81
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Mar 31 2013, 12:23am
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Agree
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Sinister71
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Mar 31 2013, 2:14am
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To be honest...
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Salmacis81
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Mar 31 2013, 3:18am
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An opinion I agree with 100% //
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Sinister71
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Mar 31 2013, 3:21am
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remember Tolkien at one point was going to re-write The Hobbit
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MouthofSauron
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Mar 31 2013, 4:39am
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Tolkien only rewrote riddles in the dark
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Sinister71
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Mar 31 2013, 1:39pm
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He re-wrote a lot more (of the beginning). Riddles ended up in the published Hobbit book. /
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DanielLB
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Mar 31 2013, 3:21pm
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But he also knew it wasn't right
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Sinister71
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Mar 31 2013, 3:25pm
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As I recall, he gave it up as too difficult
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Kirly
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Mar 31 2013, 3:26pm
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Not true
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Sinister71
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Mar 31 2013, 3:29pm
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I thought that Tolkien
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sauget.diblosio
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Mar 31 2013, 5:04pm
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from my understanding
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Sinister71
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Mar 31 2013, 5:24pm
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Well...
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Salmacis81
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Mar 31 2013, 3:48pm
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Been saying this for a while now
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Sinister71
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Mar 31 2013, 4:00pm
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I concur
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Salmacis81
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Mar 31 2013, 4:39pm
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I find this painfully true for AUJs case...Not so much for LOTR
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jtarkey
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Mar 31 2013, 7:18pm
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Amen
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Sinister71
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Mar 31 2013, 7:23pm
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The un-finished re-write still contained the Trolls' names, and the talking purse. /
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DanielLB
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Mar 31 2013, 5:19pm
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I've never read the 1960 re-write...
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Salmacis81
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Mar 31 2013, 5:27pm
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I'm not aware of anything like this
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DanielLB
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Mar 31 2013, 5:35pm
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Here
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Salmacis81
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Mar 31 2013, 5:57pm
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I thought that gave the book more charm, and the trolls a touch of humanity. I am glad he
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AinurOlorin
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Mar 31 2013, 6:35pm
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Thanks Salmacis81! If only we could remember everything we read ;-)
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DanielLB
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Mar 31 2013, 6:38pm
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No, that's not what I'm saying
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emre43
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Mar 31 2013, 7:16am
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Well, here's something we can agree on
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Salmacis81
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Mar 31 2013, 5:19pm
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Oh and I didn't ask you anything like how do you know Radagast didn't discover Sauron
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emre43
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Mar 31 2013, 7:18am
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Well if you HAD read the rest of the post...
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Salmacis81
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Mar 31 2013, 4:21pm
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If ifs and buts were candy and nuts...
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emre43
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Mar 31 2013, 5:29pm
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Quite alot was explained as Sal says.
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AinurOlorin
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Mar 31 2013, 7:33am
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I think they're using unused ideas for the LOTR movies.
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Hanzkaz
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Mar 31 2013, 8:07am
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Didn't I warn you>?!!
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AinurOlorin
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Mar 31 2013, 7:23am
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I hear ya
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Salmacis81
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Mar 31 2013, 5:31pm
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My comment was meant for the thread creator
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pulpfiction16
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Mar 31 2013, 6:34am
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If you're serious...
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Magpie
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Mar 30 2013, 1:17pm
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My sentiments exactly! Imagine that behaviour in the workforce. Gah! ///
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Kirly
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Mar 30 2013, 2:14pm
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I think the OP
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Elenorflower
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Mar 30 2013, 2:28pm
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Where is the sarcasm here?//
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Kangi Ska
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Mar 30 2013, 2:49pm
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here,
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Elenorflower
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Mar 30 2013, 3:43pm
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I have been told many times on this forum
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Elenorflower
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Mar 30 2013, 4:00pm
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I have no problem with opinions
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Magpie
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Mar 30 2013, 3:08pm
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The Internet
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Elessar
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Mar 30 2013, 4:05pm
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and I noticed that people on the 'internet'
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Elenorflower
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Mar 30 2013, 5:25pm
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Intolerance lol
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Elessar
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Mar 30 2013, 6:06pm
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Not on any negative comment in my case
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Glorfindela
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Mar 30 2013, 6:15pm
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I agree
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Elessar
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Mar 30 2013, 6:26pm
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this is definately one of the friendlier forums
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Elenorflower
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Mar 30 2013, 6:42pm
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Agreed
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Elessar
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Mar 30 2013, 6:56pm
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It put you off watching the show?!
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DanielLB
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Mar 30 2013, 7:05pm
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You've got it right there
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Glorfindela
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Mar 30 2013, 5:30pm
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I think the Original Posters hopes are a fever dream, but I do not think we should
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AinurOlorin
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Mar 31 2013, 7:03am
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Suggest you wait
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shadowdog
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Mar 30 2013, 2:42pm
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Totally disagree
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Lindele
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Mar 30 2013, 4:45am
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Yep. The more, the better! ///
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Kirly
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Mar 30 2013, 2:06pm
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Agreed...what the OP fails to realize...
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Bombadil
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Mar 30 2013, 4:02pm
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After seeing the film and reading the book I hate to say I must disagree
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Sinister71
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Mar 30 2013, 11:43pm
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Hmmmm
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Elessar
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Mar 31 2013, 6:31am
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He may have given you what you want as a Tolkien fan
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imin
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Mar 31 2013, 1:21pm
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What's 'narf syndrome', Precious?
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sauget.diblosio
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Mar 31 2013, 1:26pm
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narf
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imin
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Mar 31 2013, 1:32pm
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That makes sense,
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sauget.diblosio
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Mar 31 2013, 2:02pm
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Actually...
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Silverlode
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Apr 1 2013, 4:56am
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The other phrase, of course, is 'you people'
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geordie
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Apr 1 2013, 9:41am
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The Story is Still There
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maximus92
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Apr 1 2013, 2:33pm
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There is a bit of difference
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Salmacis81
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Apr 2 2013, 8:04pm
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Exactly
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Sinister71
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Apr 2 2013, 11:13pm
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Never tried?
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Elessar
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Apr 3 2013, 3:42pm
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well they could always prove it by
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Sinister71
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Apr 3 2013, 5:02pm
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I don't think we need to see it
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Elessar
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Apr 3 2013, 5:31pm
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I'm cool with that, that works for you
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Sinister71
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Apr 3 2013, 5:57pm
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Fair enough
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Elessar
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Apr 3 2013, 6:25pm
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It is a bummer let me tell you!
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imin
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Apr 3 2013, 6:35pm
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I'm sure
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Elessar
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Apr 3 2013, 6:56pm
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I wasn't let down by LOTR
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Sinister71
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Apr 3 2013, 7:17pm
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I'm glad
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Elessar
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Apr 3 2013, 7:47pm
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This...
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Eleniel
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Apr 3 2013, 9:00pm
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"For it is also in my mind."
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AinurOlorin
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Apr 3 2013, 12:11am
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Thanks for the laugh :D
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Ardamírë
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Apr 3 2013, 2:01am
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*wink*
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AinurOlorin
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Apr 3 2013, 4:44am
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LOL
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Salmacis81
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Apr 3 2013, 11:30am
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WOAH!!!
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Elenorflower
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Apr 3 2013, 11:52am
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I dont mind adaptations
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Elenorflower
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Apr 3 2013, 9:12am
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It is.
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Elessar
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Apr 3 2013, 3:38pm
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It does and it doesn't
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imin
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Apr 3 2013, 5:11pm
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I loved the look of the Stone giants
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Sinister71
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Apr 3 2013, 5:23pm
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You're right
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Elessar
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Apr 3 2013, 5:37pm
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That's fine
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Elessar
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Mar 31 2013, 3:11pm
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I'm not so sure
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imin
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Mar 31 2013, 11:59pm
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this is me
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tarasaurus
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Apr 1 2013, 12:04am
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I think it is the best way to be in regard to the films
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imin
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Apr 1 2013, 12:11am
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It's weird
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tarasaurus
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Apr 1 2013, 12:28am
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It's all a big mystery! :P
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imin
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Apr 1 2013, 12:56am
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Hah yeah, I did the same
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tarasaurus
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Apr 1 2013, 1:22am
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All I can say is
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Elessar
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Apr 1 2013, 1:28am
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Fair enough i believe you :)
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imin
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Apr 1 2013, 1:37am
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Fair enough :)
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Elessar
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Apr 1 2013, 1:53am
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I am not a Tolkien 'nerd'
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Glorfindela
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Mar 31 2013, 3:36pm
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The film version of the Hobbit is only as complex as it is because
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Sinister71
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Mar 31 2013, 3:45pm
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i agree
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tarasaurus
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Mar 31 2013, 4:01pm
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The thing I think is
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Sinister71
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Mar 31 2013, 4:08pm
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I still like it
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tarasaurus
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Mar 31 2013, 4:10pm
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I am glad you enjoyed the film
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Sinister71
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Mar 31 2013, 4:13pm
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I'm just still in shock
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tarasaurus
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Mar 31 2013, 4:22pm
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the only thing I didn't like...
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tarasaurus
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Mar 31 2013, 4:25pm
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I know – that's just daft :)
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Glorfindela
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Mar 31 2013, 4:38pm
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Exactly :)
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tarasaurus
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Mar 31 2013, 4:40pm
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That didn't bother me at all. I loved much of the films, and little embellishments were no concern HOWEVER what REALLY TROUBLED
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AinurOlorin
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Mar 31 2013, 6:27pm
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:)
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tarasaurus
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Mar 31 2013, 6:34pm
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I think Game of Thrones actually gives you, in some ways, a more accurate depiction of that aspect
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AinurOlorin
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Mar 31 2013, 6:43pm
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That's why
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tarasaurus
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Mar 31 2013, 7:04pm
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I suppose I am the prurience to your prudery. lol
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AinurOlorin
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Mar 31 2013, 7:26pm
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Lol
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tarasaurus
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Mar 31 2013, 7:34pm
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Well
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Lusitano
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Mar 31 2013, 7:38pm
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Hahaha
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tarasaurus
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Mar 31 2013, 7:43pm
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Amen Brother!
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AinurOlorin
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Mar 31 2013, 7:45pm
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Indeed
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Lusitano
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Mar 31 2013, 7:51pm
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Aha. I see what you did there.
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AinurOlorin
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Mar 31 2013, 8:14pm
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Ouch
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Lusitano
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Mar 31 2013, 9:08pm
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Lol.
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AinurOlorin
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Mar 31 2013, 9:10pm
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why of course...
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tarasaurus
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Mar 31 2013, 7:52pm
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I understand your concerns
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Elenorflower
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Mar 31 2013, 7:55pm
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Or ones siblings
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Lusitano
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Mar 31 2013, 7:57pm
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Yuck. I see what you did here too. And I DO NOT approve.
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AinurOlorin
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Mar 31 2013, 8:17pm
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Does anyone aprove?
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Lusitano
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Mar 31 2013, 9:14pm
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Ahh, The Dragon Queen!!!
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AinurOlorin
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Mar 31 2013, 9:51pm
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Pray it is not a thorny present
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Lusitano
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Mar 31 2013, 10:01pm
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Damned Gorka Morka.
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AinurOlorin
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Mar 31 2013, 10:49pm
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LOL
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tarasaurus
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Mar 31 2013, 7:58pm
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Love me some prurience
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Lusitano
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Mar 31 2013, 7:34pm
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Well, you know
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Glorfindela
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Mar 31 2013, 4:32pm
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How i feel as well
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tarasaurus
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Mar 31 2013, 4:36pm
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Well this should lift your spirits
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Lusitano
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Mar 31 2013, 5:50pm
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As was said
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Elessar
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Mar 31 2013, 6:32pm
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I don't think there are
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Altaira
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Mar 31 2013, 4:56pm
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Oh, I know!
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tarasaurus
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Mar 31 2013, 5:07pm
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As a self confessed lover LOTR and admirer of PJ
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Elenorflower
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Apr 1 2013, 9:56pm
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Fair enough
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Glorfindela
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Mar 31 2013, 4:23pm
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Knowledge of Tolkien
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Elessar
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Mar 31 2013, 6:30pm
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Fascinating
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Michelle Johnston
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Mar 31 2013, 9:57pm
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The hobbit as it was written
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Sinister71
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Mar 31 2013, 11:14pm
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Even though I am probably one of the "mega-enthusiasts" you are talking about...
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Salmacis81
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Mar 31 2013, 4:26pm
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I wouldn't say I am outraged
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Sinister71
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Mar 31 2013, 4:39pm
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Yep...
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Salmacis81
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Mar 31 2013, 4:42pm
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Balance between the real time narrative and prologues
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Michelle Johnston
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Mar 31 2013, 5:24pm
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with all due respect
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Elenorflower
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Apr 1 2013, 10:04pm
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Now I must disagree on the phrasing "trite". The Hobbit is a children's book, but not a trite one.
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AinurOlorin
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Apr 1 2013, 10:44pm
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I always wonder about how often The Hobbit is called a children's book.
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sauget.diblosio
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Apr 2 2013, 4:14am
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Upwards of 12 is adolescent,
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AinurOlorin
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Apr 2 2013, 4:38am
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The first test reader of the book said that it was appropriate for ages 5-9
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Voronwë_the_Faithful
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Apr 2 2013, 1:14pm
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Clarification and see you anon
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Michelle Johnston
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Apr 2 2013, 7:48am
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I must disagree with this analysis
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Elenorflower
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Apr 2 2013, 12:59pm
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I agree
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geordie
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Apr 3 2013, 6:49pm
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Yet, for me at least, there was a powerful charm to be found in The Hobbit, even in
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AinurOlorin
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Apr 2 2013, 7:27pm
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I think some of PJs additions make things
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Elenorflower
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Mar 31 2013, 5:47pm
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A fan is a fan
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Sinister71
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Mar 31 2013, 1:31pm
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Bravo!
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Lusitano
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Mar 31 2013, 2:12pm
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Good point.
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sauget.diblosio
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Mar 31 2013, 2:34pm
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Ha ha, yes!
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tolktolk
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Mar 31 2013, 2:41pm
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Great!!!!!!
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Sinister71
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Mar 31 2013, 2:54pm
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We don't see them
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Kirly
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Mar 31 2013, 3:25pm
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Of course they don't have to show everything
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sauget.diblosio
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Mar 31 2013, 4:49pm
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These points I completey agree on.
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AinurOlorin
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Mar 31 2013, 3:26pm
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A fan is a fan for sure
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Elessar
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Mar 31 2013, 3:45pm
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Here is the problem with the giants. Such titanic juggernauts diminish Smaug,
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AinurOlorin
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Mar 31 2013, 6:08pm
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I guess
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Elessar
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Mar 31 2013, 6:39pm
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I haven't entirely blasted them on this because I hold out hope, and there is a good chance that it may still happen.
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AinurOlorin
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Mar 31 2013, 6:59pm
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I'm with ya
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Elessar
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Mar 31 2013, 7:29pm
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We are in total solidarity.
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AinurOlorin
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Mar 31 2013, 7:46pm
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Another virtual high five :-)
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Elessar
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Mar 31 2013, 9:00pm
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*high five accepted and met*
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AinurOlorin
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Mar 31 2013, 9:11pm
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Hmm
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macfalk
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Mar 30 2013, 10:17am
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Obviously the films are not going to be recut
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tolktolk
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Mar 30 2013, 10:38am
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Azog was added because they thought it would improve their story.
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macfalk
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Mar 30 2013, 10:50am
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I think the problems go further than that ....
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DanielLB
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Mar 30 2013, 10:51am
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CGI
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herzogian
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Mar 30 2013, 11:20am
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yup
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Elenorflower
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Mar 30 2013, 2:04pm
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Hard to tell who is being serious in here...
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dormouse
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Mar 30 2013, 11:40am
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I'm delighted that it is going to be three films
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Glorfindela
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Mar 30 2013, 12:21pm
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It was to allow more to be included
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Loresilme
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Mar 30 2013, 12:25pm
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Why would those be cut?
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tolktolk
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Mar 30 2013, 1:01pm
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Agreed...I think Bag End wasn't affected at all.
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Eleniel
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Mar 30 2013, 1:06pm
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I Just Think It's Kind of Silly...
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MysterClark
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Mar 30 2013, 1:25pm
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They wouldn't have been
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Loresilme
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Mar 30 2013, 4:47pm
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I dont think anybody is complaining about
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Elenorflower
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Mar 30 2013, 2:08pm
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I don't think they would have been eliminated
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Loresilme
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Mar 30 2013, 4:46pm
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I don't care if he was filler or not, or if he serves a purpose.
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sauget.diblosio
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Mar 30 2013, 5:34pm
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We just disagree then
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Loresilme
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Mar 30 2013, 6:02pm
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Film critics and Bag End...
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glor
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Mar 30 2013, 6:04pm
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Agreed
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Sinister71
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Mar 30 2013, 11:41pm
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Oh for goodness sake! That is an exceptionally unbelievable request.
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Kirly
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Mar 30 2013, 2:05pm
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Indeed
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Lusitano
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Mar 30 2013, 6:39pm
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nice!
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Elenorflower
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Mar 31 2013, 11:04am
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Can't say i disagree
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sauget.diblosio
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Mar 30 2013, 2:37pm
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Azog was always planned
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Skaan
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Mar 30 2013, 5:16pm
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Why
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Lusitano
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Mar 30 2013, 5:50pm
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Glad we have 3 Hobbit Films
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IdrilofGondolin
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Mar 30 2013, 8:59pm
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All problems in AUJ are linked to the 3 movie decision - ?
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Hanzkaz
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Mar 31 2013, 7:51am
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