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CuriousG
Half-elven
Mar 28 2013, 1:12am
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I wish Gollum told us the color of the other hand. I like knowing those kinds of details.//
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Some confusing (to me) issues about the Power(s) of the Ring and Isildur
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Brethil
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Mar 22 2013, 9:59pm
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We know very little about how it works...
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Elizabeth
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Mar 23 2013, 1:16am
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No, I and wish we did know more
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Brethil
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Mar 23 2013, 2:18am
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I think invisibility is a relatively minor side-effect
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Elizabeth
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Mar 23 2013, 3:49am
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I like your take on the Ring leaving Isildur, Elizabeth
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Brethil
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Mar 23 2013, 2:31pm
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Invisibility and the Ruling Ring
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RustyF
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Mar 27 2013, 9:36pm
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Indeed primarily it is Sauron who stays in the realm of the World
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Brethil
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Mar 27 2013, 9:49pm
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To follow that idea along
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CuriousG
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Mar 28 2013, 1:23am
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I don't think he wore it enough
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imin
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Mar 28 2013, 1:28am
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An interesting question!
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arithmancer
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Mar 23 2013, 1:40pm
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interesting -- i always interpreted that scene a different way
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Maciliel
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Mar 23 2013, 2:01pm
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Agree about Sam
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arithmancer
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Mar 23 2013, 7:35pm
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Yes, the effects are very interesting:
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Elizabeth
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Mar 23 2013, 11:25pm
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I love the examples you list
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Brethil
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Mar 24 2013, 12:01am
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Thanks!
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arithmancer
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Mar 25 2013, 1:17am
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Power of the Ring, worn or not....neat!
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Brethil
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Mar 23 2013, 3:14pm
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This is the best Explanation of Bombadil and Why the Ring does affect him I have ever seen
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axewielder
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Mar 26 2013, 3:55pm
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Greetings, axewielder, and thanks, this is a great read
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Brethil
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Mar 26 2013, 9:17pm
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(Elizabeth, Maciliel, Arithmancer, Otaku-Sempai, Silverlode, Curious G, ElendiltheShort, sauget.diblosio, Axewielder; I have loved reading and processing all the viewpoints you present.)
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Brethil
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Mar 26 2013, 10:38pm
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It's all in Letter 131
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ElendilTheShort
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Mar 27 2013, 7:51am
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if the ring enhances the bearer's natural powers
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Maciliel
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Mar 27 2013, 11:27am
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The power to
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ElendilTheShort
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Mar 27 2013, 11:40am
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The info in Letter 131
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Brethil
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Mar 27 2013, 12:26pm
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Reply, lol.
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imin
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Mar 27 2013, 3:12pm
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Good post
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imin
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Mar 27 2013, 3:02pm
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But was Sauron completely confident of the Ring's dominance?
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Otaku-sempai
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Mar 27 2013, 3:35pm
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I don't think we will ever know one way or the other for sure
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imin
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Mar 27 2013, 3:44pm
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I think that Aragorn gave Sauron reason to worry...
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Otaku-sempai
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Mar 27 2013, 3:49pm
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Palantir
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imin
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Mar 27 2013, 4:01pm
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Sauron was beaten twice even when he had the Ring
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CuriousG
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Mar 27 2013, 5:21pm
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True, i feel this is similar to what i was saying though, lol.
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imin
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Mar 27 2013, 5:58pm
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True, but even that sliver of a chance scared him
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Brethil
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Mar 27 2013, 6:37pm
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Something i just wondered
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imin
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Mar 27 2013, 6:45pm
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I vote for your option #2.//
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CuriousG
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Mar 27 2013, 7:12pm
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Sauron's ultimate end (?) and where does his fea go?
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Brethil
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Mar 27 2013, 8:21pm
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I am not quite sure i understand
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imin
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Mar 27 2013, 8:34pm
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Well there are a few hints, but...
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Brethil
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Mar 27 2013, 8:53pm
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Fair enough :)
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imin
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Mar 27 2013, 9:11pm
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Body or nobody
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CuriousG
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Mar 27 2013, 9:26pm
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Well he did bear it to Numenor with no body...
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Brethil
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Mar 27 2013, 9:57pm
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Did he bear it with no body to Numenor?
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imin
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Mar 27 2013, 11:26pm
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no longer take fair form
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Maciliel
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Mar 27 2013, 11:35pm
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Yeah exactly
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imin
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Mar 27 2013, 11:42pm
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Yes, that's what I infer
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CuriousG
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Mar 28 2013, 1:08am
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Ha, you are right - I got my logic wrong - that was all backwards.
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Brethil
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Mar 27 2013, 11:55pm
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Yummy tacos, lol
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imin
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Mar 28 2013, 12:15am
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The 'disembodied' possession is another odd idea....
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Brethil
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Mar 28 2013, 12:24am
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Hope i am ok to do this!
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imin
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Mar 28 2013, 12:32am
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I should say so, this is wonderful - I like the references
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Brethil
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Mar 28 2013, 12:57am
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I wish Gollum told us the color of the other hand. I like knowing those kinds of details.//
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CuriousG
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Mar 28 2013, 1:12am
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Me too!
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Brethil
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Mar 28 2013, 1:25am
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That was not written by me btw, lol
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imin
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Mar 28 2013, 1:20am
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I recall
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CuriousG
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Mar 28 2013, 1:54am
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yeah that's what i mean
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imin
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Mar 28 2013, 2:05am
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References to the Eye
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imin
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Mar 28 2013, 2:11am
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The Eye then....
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Brethil
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Mar 28 2013, 2:44am
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Yep :)
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imin
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Mar 28 2013, 2:47am
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yes, this has always confused me
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Maciliel
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Mar 28 2013, 12:33am
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I don't think it's a stupid question but then i asked it as well, haha.
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imin
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Mar 28 2013, 12:42am
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My first answer was a bit off, CG
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Brethil
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Mar 28 2013, 12:17am
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Some worries Sauron had about Aragorn
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Brethil
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Mar 27 2013, 6:29pm
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Actually Sauron IS already rather unhoused...
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Brethil
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Mar 27 2013, 6:41pm
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Thanks, and so nice to see you here!
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Brethil
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Mar 27 2013, 6:22pm
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I agree with pretty much all this.
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imin
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Mar 27 2013, 6:59pm
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I am really interested in doors lately
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telain
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Mar 28 2013, 3:59pm
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So nice to see you Telain! I see you have been busy...!
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Brethil
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Mar 28 2013, 4:29pm
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On Ents, Elves and Eriador
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Brethil
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Mar 29 2013, 3:07am
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excellent!
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telain
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Mar 30 2013, 2:02pm
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Great retrofitting!
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noWizardme
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Mar 30 2013, 3:36pm
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Hello! I found a nice quote about that 'retrofit' idea N-W-M
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Brethil
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Mar 30 2013, 3:56pm
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Great!
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noWizardme
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Mar 30 2013, 4:14pm
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I agree!
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Brethil
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Mar 30 2013, 4:23pm
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"our affectionate scrutiny "
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CuriousG
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Mar 30 2013, 6:27pm
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Glad you do CG! Thanks!
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Brethil
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Mar 30 2013, 11:04pm
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Like to talk more about how Tolkien mainatined consistency? (link to a new thread)
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noWizardme
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Mar 31 2013, 11:09am
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also see...
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noWizardme
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Mar 31 2013, 3:42pm
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Hmmm....interesting
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axewielder
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Mar 28 2013, 8:37pm
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About Tom, and the Ring on small folk
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Brethil
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Mar 29 2013, 2:56am
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All rings excluding the Three
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ElendilTheShort
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Mar 29 2013, 4:10am
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True- I did not include the other Rings in the assessment.
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Brethil
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Mar 29 2013, 4:37am
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The disembodied Sauron taking the One Ring back to Middle Earth
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ElendilTheShort
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Mar 30 2013, 3:01am
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Am chuckling a bit today over Letters
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Brethil
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Mar 29 2013, 2:57pm
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i just had this image of sam neill
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Maciliel
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Mar 30 2013, 3:19am
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Brian Blessed = Tom Bombadil
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ElendilTheShort
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Mar 30 2013, 3:52am
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And then there is Mr.Blessed's voice...
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Brethil
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Mar 30 2013, 3:40pm
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Sam Neill - sweet picture Maciliel!
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Brethil
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Mar 30 2013, 3:29pm
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Tom as an enigma
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axewielder
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Apr 1 2013, 8:38pm
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One thing is certain
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CuriousG
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Apr 1 2013, 9:35pm
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Agreed
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Brethil
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Apr 2 2013, 4:02pm
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good thoughts
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axewielder
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Apr 2 2013, 4:59pm
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Tom's sort of peace is perhaps not achievable by Men- but needs Men to exist
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Brethil
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Apr 2 2013, 7:01pm
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Pacifism and nature
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CuriousG
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Apr 2 2013, 9:06pm
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All good points about Bombadil's motives, CG. Some questions back....
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Brethil
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Apr 2 2013, 10:12pm
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I certainly agree with that
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CuriousG
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Apr 3 2013, 1:59pm
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I think JRRT loved the simple life
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Brethil
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Apr 3 2013, 3:56pm
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Yes, Voltaire's Candide
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CuriousG
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Apr 3 2013, 6:04pm
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many mysteries surrounding the ring
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Maciliel
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Mar 23 2013, 12:59pm
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Ring sensing intent. That's what I feel
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Brethil
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Mar 23 2013, 2:44pm
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I think that a strong-willed individual can 'turn off'' the Ring's invisibility
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Otaku-sempai
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Mar 23 2013, 8:11pm
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So invisibility is the realm in which the Ring has control....
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Brethil
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Mar 23 2013, 10:02pm
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Do you know any example of this other than Bombadil?
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Elizabeth
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Mar 24 2013, 12:13am
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Welll, I didn't cite Bombadil as an example...
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Otaku-sempai
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Mar 24 2013, 12:34am
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Since no other being ever wore it...
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Silverlode
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Mar 24 2013, 4:14am
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Galadriel would be "beautiful and terrible"
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Elizabeth
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Mar 24 2013, 4:34am
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it's funny
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Maciliel
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Mar 24 2013, 4:41am
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Pretty girl with a ring
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CuriousG
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Mar 24 2013, 5:50am
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Nice point Maciliel!
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Brethil
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Mar 24 2013, 3:05pm
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Galadriel
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arithmancer
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Mar 25 2013, 1:02am
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arithmancer, your comments reflect my own thoughts
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ElendilTheShort
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Mar 25 2013, 4:49am
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Regarding beauty.
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sauget.diblosio
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Mar 26 2013, 3:28pm
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Glorfindel could be seen by Frodo as a figure bright and clear
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ElendilTheShort
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Mar 26 2013, 5:40pm
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re invisibility and dwarves
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Maciliel
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Mar 24 2013, 4:37am
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Wouldn't Sauron want to be invisible?
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CuriousG
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Mar 24 2013, 5:46am
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Yes, reversing who dwells in Spirit
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Brethil
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Mar 24 2013, 3:40pm
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You sum up a lot of what has puzzled me
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Brethil
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Mar 24 2013, 3:20pm
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Invisibility has nothing to do with spiritual stature
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ElendilTheShort
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Mar 24 2013, 9:27am
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Part of my confusion was about the meaning of statue relating to invisibility
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Brethil
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Mar 24 2013, 3:45pm
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Please don't misunderstand my reply, Sauron was physically big and strong
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ElendilTheShort
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Mar 25 2013, 4:58am
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Well said !
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Brethil
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Mar 25 2013, 2:28pm
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Just to go back to the issue of the power(s) of the ring
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imin
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Mar 28 2013, 2:57am
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i think one of the powers of the ring
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Maciliel
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Mar 28 2013, 3:04am
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Haha
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imin
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Mar 28 2013, 3:06am
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she must be sauron
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Maciliel
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Mar 28 2013, 3:08am
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Well, do we cut off her finger, or rob her of power by duct-taping her mouth? //
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CuriousG
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Mar 28 2013, 3:48am
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That's quite a pretty trinket
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Brethil
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Mar 28 2013, 3:39am
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Haha the smiley face made me laugh!
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imin
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Mar 28 2013, 3:52am
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I'm starting to wonder if it's easier to ask what its powers were not :)
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CuriousG
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Mar 28 2013, 3:38am
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I like your post CG
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Brethil
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Mar 28 2013, 3:49am
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Good post
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imin
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Mar 28 2013, 4:01am
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Powers of the Ring
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Brethil
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Mar 28 2013, 2:48pm
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