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oh, good question

telain
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Mar 27 2013, 12:22pm


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oh, good question [In reply to] Can't Post

so many great discussions! Why must it be end-of-term and I have no time!

Coming from the perspective of someone rather well-versed in academia, I would say that quite a few of the things you mention do happen to some academics/intellectuals.

When one's occupation depends on seeming like you know more -- and I stress again, seeming -- then some resort to all sorts of rationalizations, semantics, twisted logic, and the like to maintain their intellectual position. I like to think that the truly wise avoid the pitfalls, but those who are steeped in the pursuit of simply knowing can fall prey easily to "other" motivations. There is also the practice of "proving" others are wrong so that you look more intelligent. Unfortunately, it is often far easier to do this than it is to actually create works of intellectual merit.

I had mentioned in a previous thread that the Valar are more or less "naive"; I'd like to draw that same conclusion with the Noldor. They are still young in the world and many of them are not savvy enough to understand the difference yet between "wisdom" and "knowledge", "admiration" and "envy", "creating" and "possessing". That last comparison is a bit of a stretch, admittedly, but sometimes when an artist creates something truly amazing -- truly unique -- it is sometimes hard to give it up. Perhaps it is a fear that others will not truly understand what you created (and mar it somehow), or that others will forget who created it. I think Feanor fell into this trap and, like you (CuriousG) I think he probably did start out with good intentions, but unfortunately he was saddled with the artist's temperament.

Coming back to intellectuals -- the same trap is apparent. Instead of artistic works, intellectuals create works of knowledge (intellectual merit). These works carry the same possibility of possessiveness and authorship -- to the point of defending them even when it may not be practical or wise to do so. Just as an artistic work displays the craft of the artist, an intellectual work displays the mind of the intellectual, and, well, no one wants to be wrong -- or worse! To look like they are wrong...

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**Silmarillion Discussion Chapter 7: Of The Silmirals and the Unrest of the Noldor elevorn Send a private message to elevorn Mar 18 2013, 4:48pm
    My thoughts Finwe Send a private message to Finwe Mar 18 2013, 7:08pm
    Thoughts on Ch 7, Feanor and Family Brethil Send a private message to Brethil Mar 19 2013, 8:34pm
    a few thoughts telain Send a private message to telain Mar 21 2013, 5:21pm
    maciliel-thoughts Maciliel Send a private message to Maciliel Mar 21 2013, 10:57pm
    Answers and more questions CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG Mar 24 2013, 3:24am
        And answering Your questions sador Send a private message to sador Mar 24 2013, 10:40am
            More questions CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG Mar 27 2013, 12:59am
                maciliel-thoughts Maciliel Send a private message to Maciliel Mar 27 2013, 3:21am
                    "Smart people don't start many bar fights. But stupid people don't build many hydrogen bombs." noWizardme Send a private message to noWizardme Mar 31 2013, 2:27pm
                oh, good question telain Send a private message to telain Mar 27 2013, 12:22pm
                Deep Elves elostirion74 Send a private message to elostirion74 Mar 27 2013, 10:48pm
                    Problems of creation playing out on a new level noWizardme Send a private message to noWizardme Mar 30 2013, 4:10pm
        Silmarils and creation ethic Brethil Send a private message to Brethil Mar 26 2013, 7:35pm
            Great insights, Brethil CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG Mar 27 2013, 12:46am
                Great post CG Brethil Send a private message to Brethil Mar 27 2013, 8:37pm
        interesting, curiousg Maciliel Send a private message to Maciliel Mar 27 2013, 3:41am
    Answering your questions sador Send a private message to sador Mar 24 2013, 9:27am
        Just to note that discussion of the next chapter has started noWizardme Send a private message to noWizardme Apr 9 2013, 11:24am
            very thoughtful addition Maciliel Send a private message to Maciliel Apr 9 2013, 2:04pm

 
 
 

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