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Maciliel
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Mar 27 2013, 3:41am


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"Do you think this is the point of Feanorís marriage to where he becomes estranged from him? Is Feanorís desire for his own works what causes Nerdanel to fade out of the story?
He seems so self-centered, my thought on their marriage is that he was charming at first to get his girl, and she at first looked for the best in him, but they were never really close, even when making seven sons together (and possibly some unlisted daughters).


interesting... i always viewed the trajectory of feanor's relationship with nerdandel as intense and true and fiercely sincere and blissfully happy at first. the motherless feanor, feeling love, receiving love. it's a different sort of love than a mother's love, but when we are loved by a mate in that intimate, caring way, it has the power to heal wounds that are old and deep.

and, frankly, even though christopher tolkien cut out so much of the good stuff from nerdanel's bio (she was the one who taught him so much, not her father), we still can get a good idea of who nerdanel was without it.

feanor did +not+ suffer fools. he valued knowledge. he valued strength. nerdanel must have been feanor's equal in just about everything but the skills themselves. he was such an egotist... he only could have taken advice from someone he perceived as his equal, as having something of value to offer.

i think with feanor's self-centeredness, it couldn't last. but i do think he had intense bliss for a long while (i think the large family is evidence).


cheers --

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aka. fili orc-enshield
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the scene, as i understand it, is exceptionally well-written. fili (in sort of a callback to the scene with the eagles), calls out "thorRIIIIIIN!!!" just as he sees the pale orc veer in for the kill. he picks up the severed arm of an orc which is lying on the ground, swings it up in desperation, effectively blocking the pale orc's blow. and thus, forever after, fili is known as "fili orc-enshield."

this earns him deep respect from his hard-to-please uncle. as well as a hug. kili wipes his boots on the pale orc's glory box. -- maciliel

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**Silmarillion Discussion Chapter 7: Of The Silmirals and the Unrest of the Noldor elevorn Send a private message to elevorn Mar 18 2013, 4:48pm
    My thoughts Finwe Send a private message to Finwe Mar 18 2013, 7:08pm
    Thoughts on Ch 7, Feanor and Family Brethil Send a private message to Brethil Mar 19 2013, 8:34pm
    a few thoughts telain Send a private message to telain Mar 21 2013, 5:21pm
    maciliel-thoughts Maciliel Send a private message to Maciliel Mar 21 2013, 10:57pm
    Answers and more questions CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG Mar 24 2013, 3:24am
        And answering Your questions sador Send a private message to sador Mar 24 2013, 10:40am
            More questions CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG Mar 27 2013, 12:59am
                maciliel-thoughts Maciliel Send a private message to Maciliel Mar 27 2013, 3:21am
                    "Smart people don't start many bar fights. But stupid people don't build many hydrogen bombs." noWizardme Send a private message to noWizardme Mar 31 2013, 2:27pm
                oh, good question telain Send a private message to telain Mar 27 2013, 12:22pm
                Deep Elves elostirion74 Send a private message to elostirion74 Mar 27 2013, 10:48pm
                    Problems of creation playing out on a new level noWizardme Send a private message to noWizardme Mar 30 2013, 4:10pm
        Silmarils and creation ethic Brethil Send a private message to Brethil Mar 26 2013, 7:35pm
            Great insights, Brethil CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG Mar 27 2013, 12:46am
                Great post CG Brethil Send a private message to Brethil Mar 27 2013, 8:37pm
        interesting, curiousg Maciliel Send a private message to Maciliel Mar 27 2013, 3:41am
    Answering your questions sador Send a private message to sador Mar 24 2013, 9:27am
        Just to note that discussion of the next chapter has started noWizardme Send a private message to noWizardme Apr 9 2013, 11:24am
            very thoughtful addition Maciliel Send a private message to Maciliel Apr 9 2013, 2:04pm

 
 
 

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