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**Silmarillion Discussion Chapter 7: Of The Silmirals and the Unrest of the Noldor

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Mar 18 2013, 4:48pm


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{Here lies a brief synopsis of a full chapter}
Things begin to go very quickly once Feanor creates the bling to end all bling, ahem excuse me, once he creates the hallowed jewels that behold the fates of Arda. We have Feanor making the jewels, of a material NASA scientists would undoubtedly love to know about. Varda hallows them and Mandos, the life of any party, speaks incredible doom over them, and Melkor, now freed falls madly in love with their sparkle.
These jewels speed up the downfall of a great people. Melkor in his lust for them begins to spread his dissent among the Noldor and the Sons of Finwe. They begin to fashion terrible weapons. More so they make armor and helms and shields. For a people who have known no war they certainly arm and train up quickly. Melkor speaks of captivity and of the coming of Men to the Elves and spreads his lies and power wherever he can. He succeeds by driving a wedge between the sons of Finwe and there is a frightening exchange between Feanor and his half brother Fingolfin. Fingolfin proves he is the better man and that Feanor is simply a hot headed brat who wants more than he already has.

For his crimes and threats Feanor is exiled for 12 years, I suppose this is the equivalent of a timeout for an elf. Fingolfin agrees to let the matter go after the allotted time. Feanor takes his things and leaves and no one ever gets to see the Silmirals of his will again. Seeing an opportunity Melkor extends his reach a bit too far and feigns help for Feanor, but he makes a grave mistake in speaking about the jewels. Feanor slams the door in his face, a brave and foolish thing to do, yet Melkor skulks away as a thunderstorm and vanishes for a time.

We are left with elves in a state of unrest, and one at a state of extreme displeasure with everything (Feanor, he’s just not a happy guy, it’s amazing he ended up with so many kids). Not only are the elves restless, but now many of them are quite well armed and armored. Seems we are being set up for some rather large action soon.


What do you think was Feanor’s purpose for creating such Jewels?


Do you think this is the point of Feanor’s marriage to where he becomes estranged from him? Is Feanor’s desire for his own works what causes Nerdanel to fade out of the story?


If you had to choose a blacksmith who would you want making your swords and armor? Telchar? Feanor? Mahtan? Someone else?


Was it part of Melkor’s plan for the Elves to arm themselves? Do you think this could have been a somewhat fatal flaw in his design?


What are your thoughts on Feanor? Is he a troubled genius or mad scientist? Is there a deeper seated issue with him, like a problem of fatherly love, or is he a tortured artist of sorts who just cannot be happy with anything save the work of his own hands?


With such a hotheaded brother, why do Finarfin and Fingolfin find it necessary to take his side? Family is family, but can they not see that something bad is happening? Is there friendship a good or bad thing at this point?

Will post my answers later in the week.



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(This post was edited by elevorn on Mar 18 2013, 4:52pm)

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**Silmarillion Discussion Chapter 7: Of The Silmirals and the Unrest of the Noldor elevorn Send a private message to elevorn Mar 18 2013, 4:48pm
    My thoughts Finwe Send a private message to Finwe Mar 18 2013, 7:08pm
    Thoughts on Ch 7, Feanor and Family Brethil Send a private message to Brethil Mar 19 2013, 8:34pm
    a few thoughts telain Send a private message to telain Mar 21 2013, 5:21pm
    maciliel-thoughts Maciliel Send a private message to Maciliel Mar 21 2013, 10:57pm
    Answers and more questions CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG Mar 24 2013, 3:24am
        And answering Your questions sador Send a private message to sador Mar 24 2013, 10:40am
            More questions CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG Mar 27 2013, 12:59am
                maciliel-thoughts Maciliel Send a private message to Maciliel Mar 27 2013, 3:21am
                    "Smart people don't start many bar fights. But stupid people don't build many hydrogen bombs." noWizardme Send a private message to noWizardme Mar 31 2013, 2:27pm
                oh, good question telain Send a private message to telain Mar 27 2013, 12:22pm
                Deep Elves elostirion74 Send a private message to elostirion74 Mar 27 2013, 10:48pm
                    Problems of creation playing out on a new level noWizardme Send a private message to noWizardme Mar 30 2013, 4:10pm
        Silmarils and creation ethic Brethil Send a private message to Brethil Mar 26 2013, 7:35pm
            Great insights, Brethil CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG Mar 27 2013, 12:46am
                Great post CG Brethil Send a private message to Brethil Mar 27 2013, 8:37pm
        interesting, curiousg Maciliel Send a private message to Maciliel Mar 27 2013, 3:41am
    Answering your questions sador Send a private message to sador Mar 24 2013, 9:27am
        Just to note that discussion of the next chapter has started noWizardme Send a private message to noWizardme Apr 9 2013, 11:24am
            very thoughtful addition Maciliel Send a private message to Maciliel Apr 9 2013, 2:04pm

 
 
 

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