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did Valinor have daylight savings time?

telain
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Mar 14 2013, 1:20am


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did Valinor have daylight savings time? [In reply to] Can't Post

Re: the questions: You are too kind -- actually I had recently devised a midterm exam for my class, so I had much practice!

I like your seasonal description:

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the summer is now, and while there's no winter, the autumn comes with the death of the Trees and revolt of the Noldor, and there will be no spring again.

Just the wording of that sentence! Why is it that seasonal metaphors always speak of so much melancholy?

On a happier note: what relationship must one have to the season of summer to feel uplifted to know that something is in the summer of its existence? Do you have to love the season, live in a place with agreeable summer weather, or (rather cynically now) be involved in teaching so the routine of the school year is set aside for a while?


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What was it like for Elves to be happy and not contemplating loss and grief?

Indeed! I would have very much liked to have read about that. Personally, I'd like to think they were writing and performing beautiful music, eating and drinking the equivalent of ambrosia, and storytelling (but forgetting to write any of it down, so we would have to guess about in an online thread...)


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To me, Tolkien wanted to show that Feanor was larger than life, greater than was normal and greater than he should have been.

I completely agree -- and with Finwe's (TORn Finwe, not Sil Finwe) observation about Miriel and Feanor. He needed to be extraordinary and draining his mother of life and spirit just by being born (and in Valinor, no less) really does set him up as other-otherworldy.

His losing a parent is interesting, too, because he could very much feel responsible for it. That he was skilled in hand -- as you pointed out, like his mother -- could be his atonement.

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Being blessed with exceptional talent while being a misfit is usually a recipe for disaster.

Yes! Of course, in stories such as these, those incredibly talented and giftedly tragic people will go on to do things -- by nature, nurture, or twist of fate -- that are the fitting outcomes for their extraordinary beginnings.

Since Ardamire's posts I am significantly more sympathetic toward Miriel, but I think you make a great point about Finwe as father. What role model was he using? Were there other deaths of spouses/parents that preceded this one? We might be expected quite a lot from Finwe, given the unnumbered years of human existence we can draw on for help in these matters.

So many great comments! I would ask for more hours in the day, but we did just get another hour of daylight, so I shouldn't complain...

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Silmarilion Discussion, Chapter 6: "Of Feanor..." 1 of 2 telain Send a private message to telain Mar 8 2013, 8:46pm
    Alas that I am on holiday... Ardamírë Send a private message to Ardamírë Mar 9 2013, 4:29am
        I didn't include HoME... telain Send a private message to telain Mar 10 2013, 11:51pm
            Míriel Ardamírë Send a private message to Ardamírë Mar 12 2013, 3:57am
                Wow, many thanks, Ardamire CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG Mar 12 2013, 10:33pm
                    It was my pleasure! Ardamírë Send a private message to Ardamírë Mar 12 2013, 10:56pm
                        I absolutely agree with CuriousG -- thank you! telain Send a private message to telain Mar 12 2013, 11:07pm
                            Finwe and Miriel detailed Ardamírë Send a private message to Ardamírë Mar 12 2013, 11:42pm
                                All the same CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG Mar 13 2013, 12:43am
                                    Reissue Ardamírë Send a private message to Ardamírë Mar 13 2013, 12:51am
                                        count me in, too! telain Send a private message to telain Mar 13 2013, 1:21am
                                            Critique Ardamírë Send a private message to Ardamírë Mar 13 2013, 2:09am
                                                For those who may be interested in delving deeper into the story of Finwë and Míriel Voronwë_the_Faithful Send a private message to Voronwë_the_Faithful Mar 13 2013, 9:51pm
                    homely Miriel and party-girl Indis, no more! telain Send a private message to telain Mar 13 2013, 1:13am
                Great info Finwe Send a private message to Finwe Mar 13 2013, 5:46pm
                    Thanks, Finwe! Ardamírë Send a private message to Ardamírë Mar 13 2013, 6:18pm
    Excerpt from Arda Reconstructed Voronwë_the_Faithful Send a private message to Voronwë_the_Faithful Mar 9 2013, 8:06pm
        Thank you Ethel Duath Send a private message to Ethel Duath Mar 9 2013, 10:49pm
        and thank you again! telain Send a private message to telain Mar 11 2013, 12:11am
        Another thank you CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG Mar 11 2013, 10:55pm
            The daughters of Indis Ardamírë Send a private message to Ardamírë Mar 13 2013, 2:06am
    Personality development: nature, nurture, or fate? CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG Mar 11 2013, 11:41pm
        did Valinor have daylight savings time? telain Send a private message to telain Mar 14 2013, 1:20am
    Unbelievable Finwe Send a private message to Finwe Mar 13 2013, 8:23pm
        2 bits of advice CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG Mar 13 2013, 10:12pm
            Thanks for the advice./// Finwe Send a private message to Finwe Mar 14 2013, 5:57pm
        definitely "going with it"! telain Send a private message to telain Mar 14 2013, 1:30am
            Don't feel sheepish Finwe Send a private message to Finwe Mar 14 2013, 5:58pm
    Coming after the party is over... sador Send a private message to sador Mar 14 2013, 4:04pm
        Unhappy in paradise noWizardme Send a private message to noWizardme Mar 30 2013, 2:46pm

 
 
 

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