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JWPlatt
Grey Havens
Mar 13 2013, 7:13pm
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I have no problem with hugs. That's a little specious. Neither do I. I have a problem with the cliché of forced, schizophrenic behavior emanating not from the character organically, but externally from the director trying to be tricksy. It is typically reserved for sitcom use as comedy, or violently unstable characters such as The Joker in Batman.
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At your first viewing, what was your impression of Thorin's angry speech/hug/apology at the end?
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Riven Delve
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Mar 7 2013, 12:36pm
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Have a look at this thread from a few weeks ago
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Brethil
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Mar 7 2013, 12:44pm
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Missed that
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Riven Delve
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Mar 7 2013, 12:52pm
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I loved it
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Glorfindela
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Mar 7 2013, 12:50pm
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You've opened a real can of worms here Riven Delve!
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elaen32
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Mar 7 2013, 12:52pm
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I liked the scene
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Angharad73
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Mar 7 2013, 1:17pm
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I liked it, a lot.
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arithmancer
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Mar 7 2013, 1:33pm
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Thorin's anger
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Riven Delve
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Mar 7 2013, 5:40pm
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Agreed, Riven Delve
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Brethil
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Mar 7 2013, 6:34pm
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I'm a very hard woman.
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ShireHorse
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Mar 7 2013, 1:35pm
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In addition Shirehorse
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Brethil
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Mar 7 2013, 1:43pm
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Hope
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Riven Delve
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Mar 8 2013, 12:46am
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Watch for it on DVD
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Brethil
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Mar 8 2013, 12:53am
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reaction
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marillaraina
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Mar 8 2013, 1:51am
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Same!
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Ham_Sammy
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Mar 8 2013, 1:43am
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Thorin hug = Sam's speech
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Arannir
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Mar 7 2013, 1:54pm
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Good God... No! Just no!
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xxxyyy
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Mar 7 2013, 3:23pm
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Just shows...
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Arannir
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Mar 7 2013, 3:37pm
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...one person's cheese is another's fondue? ;-) //
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dernwyn
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Mar 7 2013, 4:58pm
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LOL! Well put!
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Old Toby
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Mar 7 2013, 5:00pm
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Haha so true!
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imin
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Mar 7 2013, 5:10pm
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More bread please!
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Ham_Sammy
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Mar 7 2013, 5:34pm
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*gets out fondue forks*
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Roheryn
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Mar 8 2013, 10:15am
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I loved it
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DanielLB
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Mar 7 2013, 2:04pm
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Still it is a cliche! no getting around that.
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imin
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Mar 7 2013, 3:04pm
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It's more cliché calling the scene cliché, than it is actually a cliché. ;-)
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DanielLB
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Mar 7 2013, 4:45pm
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A cliche' in the real world doesn't count.
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xxxyyy
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Mar 9 2013, 5:03pm
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Loved it as well.
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Elessar
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Mar 7 2013, 4:05pm
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my first impression...
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andwise
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Mar 7 2013, 2:58pm
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Strongly disliked it
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imin
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Mar 7 2013, 3:03pm
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Hate To Say It But I Agree
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DiveTwin
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Mar 7 2013, 3:27pm
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Dwalin
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Riven Delve
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Mar 7 2013, 4:09pm
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I didn't like the music
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Valandil ed Imladris
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Mar 7 2013, 3:21pm
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I agree
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Ham_Sammy
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Mar 7 2013, 3:40pm
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What was Shore's original music for it? //
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imin
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Mar 7 2013, 3:44pm
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I meant
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Ham_Sammy
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Mar 7 2013, 3:55pm
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Oh sorry i misunderstood you
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imin
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Mar 7 2013, 4:00pm
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I really wish he had
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Ham_Sammy
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Mar 7 2013, 4:25pm
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I loved it!
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Old Toby
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Mar 7 2013, 4:04pm
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I was spoiled
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Marionette
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Mar 7 2013, 4:40pm
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Reminded me of Gimli and Aragorn at Helm's Deep -
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SirDennisC
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Mar 7 2013, 4:56pm
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That felt
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Lusitano
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Mar 7 2013, 5:42pm
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Martin's reaction saves it.
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Ataahua
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Mar 7 2013, 6:09pm
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Jarring
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Riven Delve
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Mar 7 2013, 7:21pm
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Keep in mind the time-stop element
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Brethil
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Mar 7 2013, 7:49pm
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Good point! //
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Riven Delve
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Mar 7 2013, 7:55pm
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Rationalizations
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JWPlatt
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Mar 7 2013, 8:00pm
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From my view, I feel it is logical and appropriate
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Brethil
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Mar 7 2013, 8:31pm
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The Hand of Gandalf
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JWPlatt
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Mar 7 2013, 8:42pm
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Exactly that.
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Ataahua
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Mar 7 2013, 7:59pm
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I thought it was fine
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TheSexyBeard
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Mar 7 2013, 6:19pm
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I really liked it
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IDLookout
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Mar 7 2013, 6:36pm
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The Anger Hug Is Comedic Cliché
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JWPlatt
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Mar 7 2013, 7:50pm
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Very well
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Lusitano
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Mar 7 2013, 8:00pm
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Yes, we've all had this conversation before
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ShireHorse
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Mar 7 2013, 9:33pm
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The Dynamic
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JWPlatt
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Mar 7 2013, 10:27pm
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Some people may act like this in real life
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imin
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Mar 8 2013, 12:19am
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I almost entirely agree. THe only light I can see it in is Thorin having
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AinurOlorin
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Mar 8 2013, 5:36am
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le hug
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swordwhale
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Mar 7 2013, 8:20pm
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I fell for Thorin's anger...
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Nunilo
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Mar 7 2013, 9:09pm
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I saw it coming even without my elf eyes
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Barrow-Wight
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Mar 7 2013, 10:29pm
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Good Answer
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JWPlatt
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Mar 7 2013, 10:41pm
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wow thanks
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Barrow-Wight
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Mar 7 2013, 10:46pm
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For the record, I am not against things being cliche' or predictable if they work and are fitting.
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AinurOlorin
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Mar 8 2013, 5:55am
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The moment
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Elessar
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Mar 8 2013, 2:30pm
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If I tell you what I think
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Elenorflower
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Mar 7 2013, 11:57pm
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Please do
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Lusitano
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Mar 8 2013, 12:00am
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On second thoughts ...
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Elenorflower
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Mar 8 2013, 12:11am
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In touch with his femininity
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Lusitano
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Mar 8 2013, 12:16am
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much as I like stud muffins *cough*
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Elenorflower
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Mar 8 2013, 12:26am
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I think Gabriel would be a wonderfull choice
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Lusitano
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Mar 8 2013, 12:40am
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He saved his life. That merits hugging. And hugging is not really metrosexual.
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AinurOlorin
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Mar 8 2013, 5:57am
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The whole premise of the scene
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tolktolk
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Mar 8 2013, 10:02am
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Yes, I saw MF on the Graham Norton Show
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ShireHorse
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Mar 8 2013, 11:00am
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This.
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Arannir
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Mar 8 2013, 1:02pm
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yes I see what you mean
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Elenorflower
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Mar 8 2013, 1:24pm
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Sorry, I think you've got that around the wrong way, Elenorflower.
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ShireHorse
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Mar 8 2013, 1:59pm
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Man-hug hunt
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Na Vedui
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Mar 26 2013, 11:46pm
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Shirehorse
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marillaraina
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Mar 27 2013, 12:13am
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To hug or not
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Na Vedui
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Mar 27 2013, 12:42am
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Enjoyed your analysis, Na Vedui,
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ShireHorse
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Mar 27 2013, 4:41pm
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Hugs and stuff
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Na Vedui
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Mar 27 2013, 5:18pm
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Please, Captain...
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JWPlatt
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Mar 8 2013, 2:30pm
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***Applause****
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Brethil
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Mar 8 2013, 2:36pm
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Brilliant!
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Elenorflower
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Mar 8 2013, 3:30pm
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That is so true!
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BoromirOfWinterfell
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Mar 8 2013, 6:22pm
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just suggesting
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ByThorinsBeard
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Mar 13 2013, 6:37pm
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Anger Hug
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JWPlatt
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Mar 13 2013, 7:13pm
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Talking over my head but
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ByThorinsBeard
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Mar 13 2013, 8:40pm
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The Hug
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JWPlatt
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Mar 13 2013, 8:43pm
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I understand what you said JW, I just miss things sometimes
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ByThorinsBeard
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Mar 13 2013, 11:16pm
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Tricks
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JWPlatt
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Mar 13 2013, 11:23pm
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I have no idea!
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Roheryn
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Mar 8 2013, 3:18am
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My reaction
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Súlimë
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Mar 8 2013, 5:38am
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Too soon
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Fredeghar Wayfarer
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Mar 8 2013, 10:45am
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This.
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Eleniel
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Mar 8 2013, 10:52am
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One things for sure
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imin
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Mar 8 2013, 2:34pm
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It was spoiled by a TV spot for me.
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BoromirOfWinterfell
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Mar 8 2013, 6:21pm
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plenty of things have come across to me in film as cliche, but this wasn't one of them
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Maciliel
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Mar 9 2013, 9:58pm
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I think it was too soon
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Sinister71
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Mar 9 2013, 10:26pm
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Not bogus, just different
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dreamflower
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Mar 11 2013, 3:24pm
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Inevitable
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dreamflower
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Mar 11 2013, 3:17pm
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after being as stubborn and blustery as Thorin about these films
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ByThorinsBeard
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Mar 13 2013, 12:50pm
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Great!
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arithmancer
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Mar 13 2013, 1:52pm
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Wonderful!
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GloryBox
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Mar 13 2013, 5:51pm
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