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CuriousG
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Mar 11 2013, 10:16pm


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Not sure where the last 2 weeks went, but here goes:

1. Why don’t people travel from the Lonely Isle to Aman? And how come the Teleri never travel back to the Lonely Isle once they have ships?

It's odd to me that Tolkien doesn't clarify this, or Christopher didn't. Tol Eressea is later confirmed as inhabited, so wasn't it always so? Did Teleri stay behind there when some left for Alqualonde? That tribe certainly has a penchant for remnants staying behind. Did they travel back and forth? That seems most likely, but still hard to say.

2. Would you like to visit Alqualonde, based on this description? Would Tolkien have made a good travel writer?

Yes and yes!

3. Why are swans so often referenced in Tolkien?

I think he must have found them very elegant, one of the most elegant of animals. I certainly think they are. I can go to a zoo where swans, geese, and ducks all swim in the same pool, and the swans stand out as the sleek, sophisticated ones. Those extra long necks ought to see a bit odd, but somehow they look graceful.

4. What exactly is living rock?

Agree with others: hewn, not quarried, and adds the perception that it's somehow alive.

5. Will the Teleri ever be happy?

Actually, they seem like the happy ones compared to the Noldor, who disrupt their lives both in Eldamar and Beleriand. Will the Noldor ever be happy?

6. What new things do we learn about the Noldor here? And why of all the sons of Feanor does Tolkien choose to tell us more about Celegorm here?

The Noldor stand out as the most ambitious and industrious race, almost like Dwarves. It's odd to me about Celegorm getting special mention here. Maybe it was all just to set up Huan being in his service since both Celegorm and Huan play a significant role in Beren & Luthien?

7. Middle Earth has mumaks, wargs, giant eagles and talking birds, among other things. How do you think those would stack up whatever creatures live only in Aman? Is Tolkien referencing dinosaurs or something more mythic or fantastic?

I think this is a Tolkien Tease begging our imagination to come up with whatever we'd like. There could be unicorns, or non-evil spiders, or lions that lay down with lambs. Or dinosaurs. It's all fair game, it seems.

8. Any other comments on this section or the chapter as a whole?

Thanks for leading the discussion, Weaver. This isn't an easy chapter since it has a lot of description of places without much character interaction, but you certainly mined up a lot of gems for the rest of us.

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*Silmarillion Discussion: Chapter 5, "Of Eldamar and the Princes of the Eldalie", Conclusion -- Go Teleri on the Mountain...** weaver Send a private message to weaver Mar 1 2013, 9:51pm
    Alqualonde Ardamírë Send a private message to Ardamírë Mar 1 2013, 10:42pm
    A few rather random thoughts FarFromHome Send a private message to FarFromHome Mar 3 2013, 5:02pm
    Miami, Elf style PhantomS Send a private message to PhantomS Mar 4 2013, 3:52pm
    short answers to questions that deserve more athn what I have given elevorn Send a private message to elevorn Mar 4 2013, 4:12pm
    Late answers CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG Mar 11 2013, 10:16pm
    <looking sheepish> sador Send a private message to sador Mar 12 2013, 9:14pm

 
 
 

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