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Ham_Sammy
Tol Eressea
Mar 6 2013, 2:20pm
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Movie making is an art. This is PJ's vision. He doesn't need to acknowledge anything. You either enjoy his vision or you don't. Over a billion dollars made the movie a success. I would say the vast majority enjoyed it and saw it multiple times. It is what it is. I will be looking forward to the next two very much so.
Thank you for your questions, now go sod off and do something useful - Martin Freeman Twitter chat 3/1/12
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Subject
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User
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Time
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Has Mr. Jackson shown any signs of contrition?
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Joe B.
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Mar 6 2013, 7:19am
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Affirmative on the first part.
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Aragorn the Elfstone
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Mar 6 2013, 7:38am
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why should he?
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Silmaril
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Mar 6 2013, 8:07am
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$1,001,424,668 //
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macfalk
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Mar 6 2013, 8:20am
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How much did Twilight make? //
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QuackingTroll
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Mar 6 2013, 11:56am
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And wasn't Twilight the movie fans wanted to see?
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Arannir
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Mar 6 2013, 12:03pm
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Judging by sales of things like "Twilight in Forks"
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QuackingTroll
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Mar 6 2013, 12:53pm
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A good indicator would be how many seats were actually sold
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DanielLB
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Mar 6 2013, 1:03pm
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I have wondered this myself a few times
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imin
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Mar 6 2013, 1:17pm
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However,
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Glorfindela
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Mar 6 2013, 2:00pm
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OK compared to Skyfall then
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imin
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Mar 6 2013, 2:04pm
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That only indicates how many people saw it. Not how many liked it.
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QuackingTroll
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Mar 6 2013, 1:19pm
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I am not in denial about anything...
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Arannir
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Mar 6 2013, 3:58pm
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Twilight is a niche movie
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Elenorflower
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Mar 6 2013, 4:56pm
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I guess the world is less black/white to me.
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Arannir
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Mar 6 2013, 10:19pm
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15 Top Grossing films with their RT scores
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AshNazg
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Mar 6 2013, 8:34pm
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It really boggles my mind...
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droidsocket
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Mar 6 2013, 8:52pm
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For that matter
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SirDennisC
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Mar 6 2013, 8:58pm
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It was marketed as a sort of brand new virtual reality expirience...
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jtarkey
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Mar 6 2013, 9:00pm
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I think Alice...
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Arannir
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Mar 6 2013, 10:17pm
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Star Wars Episode 1 is a good example of franchise popularity over movie quality //
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AshNazg
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Mar 6 2013, 9:17pm
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That's down to James Cameron
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QuackingTroll
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Mar 6 2013, 9:22pm
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Apart from PM, which was re-released, and Titanic...
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Eleniel
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Mar 6 2013, 10:50pm
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It is difficult to measure the precise impact of the inflation.
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Escapist
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Mar 6 2013, 11:00pm
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Another thing that should be considered
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Glorfindela
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Mar 6 2013, 11:11pm
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The world has changed
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glor
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Mar 7 2013, 12:34am
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Less than The Hobbit. Far less. //
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macfalk
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Mar 6 2013, 5:37pm
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ROFL
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marillaraina
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Mar 8 2013, 2:19am
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The Hobbit is not Lord of the Rings.
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Elizabeth
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Mar 6 2013, 8:50am
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I apologize but...
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jtarkey
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Mar 6 2013, 7:23pm
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I often wonder
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Lindele
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Mar 6 2013, 7:31pm
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That's true. I wonder as well
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jtarkey
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Mar 6 2013, 7:37pm
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This is why I think films 2 and 3 will fix some things
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Ham_Sammy
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Mar 6 2013, 7:40pm
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Right
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jtarkey
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Mar 6 2013, 7:53pm
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That makes sense as well
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Ham_Sammy
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Mar 6 2013, 8:02pm
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I agree Itarkey
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Brethil
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Mar 6 2013, 8:14pm
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That's assuming that the production team believe AUJ was a failure ...
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DanielLB
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Mar 6 2013, 9:04am
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Failure
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dave_lf
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Mar 6 2013, 2:40pm
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Indeed....
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swordwhale
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Mar 7 2013, 8:37pm
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I don't see why he should
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Angharad73
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Mar 6 2013, 10:46am
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Who gives a toss
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Glorfindela
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Mar 6 2013, 11:34am
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Was it just American critics?
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sauget.diblosio
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Mar 6 2013, 12:19pm
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While I do consider 'The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey' to be a flawed film...
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Otaku-sempai
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Mar 6 2013, 1:05pm
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I agree...
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QuackingTroll
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Mar 6 2013, 1:26pm
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When the film is only part of the story?
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Otaku-sempai
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Mar 6 2013, 1:46pm
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The same applies to the LOTR films
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Glorfindela
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Mar 6 2013, 2:09pm
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You must remember that,
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painjoiker
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Mar 6 2013, 3:23pm
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I agree
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imin
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Mar 6 2013, 2:14pm
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Ricky Gervais
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Ham_Sammy
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Mar 6 2013, 3:57pm
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So because
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Lindele
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Mar 6 2013, 1:49pm
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I don't think PJ should apologize
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imin
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Mar 6 2013, 2:01pm
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Of course
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Lindele
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Mar 6 2013, 2:16pm
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Maybe
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imin
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Mar 6 2013, 2:36pm
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Well, I guess the point I am ultimately trying to make
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Lindele
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Mar 6 2013, 2:58pm
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It completely comes down to personal likes/dislikes
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Ham_Sammy
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Mar 6 2013, 3:02pm
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Yeah i agree with all that
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imin
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Mar 6 2013, 3:05pm
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I very much doubt
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Elenorflower
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Mar 6 2013, 3:25pm
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I can see how
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Lindele
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Mar 6 2013, 3:28pm
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I think you were rather
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Elenorflower
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Mar 6 2013, 3:55pm
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I was not
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Lindele
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Mar 6 2013, 4:05pm
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The Hobbit wasn't a "failure"
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stoutfiles
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Mar 6 2013, 4:27pm
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This.
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sauget.diblosio
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Mar 6 2013, 4:59pm
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The worst?
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Arannir
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Mar 7 2013, 10:07am
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It is actually a perspective. And I think Peter DID get up their backs
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AinurOlorin
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Mar 6 2013, 4:33pm
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They are on the lookout for padding
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Salmacis81
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Mar 6 2013, 7:08pm
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I think that's true
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Ham_Sammy
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Mar 6 2013, 7:11pm
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My opinion
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Salmacis81
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Mar 6 2013, 7:37pm
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If Jackson is like other artists -
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Hanzkaz
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Mar 6 2013, 1:59pm
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Artists don't apologize
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Ham_Sammy
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Mar 6 2013, 2:20pm
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Thanks, my feelings exactly
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Rostron2
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Mar 6 2013, 8:21pm
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This is only the (rather long) interval, and time to get three hundred and sixty five ice creams..
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Bumblingidiot
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Mar 6 2013, 2:36pm
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he wont publicly show any signs of contrition
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Elenorflower
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Mar 6 2013, 3:18pm
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I do not see much evidence for this...
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Arannir
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Mar 7 2013, 10:16am
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If a director, not just PJ but any director, lets critics dictate
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Old Toby
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Mar 6 2013, 3:55pm
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that would be true
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Elenorflower
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Mar 6 2013, 4:51pm
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That is your opinion
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Ham_Sammy
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Mar 6 2013, 5:03pm
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erm you are putting words into my mouth
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Elenorflower
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Mar 6 2013, 6:05pm
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Yes however
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Ham_Sammy
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Mar 6 2013, 6:12pm
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Very true Ham Sammy
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Brethil
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Mar 6 2013, 6:26pm
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I didn't feel it was hot at all
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Ham_Sammy
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Mar 6 2013, 6:36pm
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Close
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JWPlatt
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Mar 7 2013, 1:16am
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Nope. ;-)
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arithmancer
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Mar 6 2013, 5:12pm
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Exactly
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Ham_Sammy
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Mar 6 2013, 5:21pm
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That's why
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Elessar
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Mar 6 2013, 5:26pm
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This is the deal
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Ham_Sammy
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Mar 6 2013, 5:28pm
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I can deal with that
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Elessar
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Mar 6 2013, 5:35pm
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If PJ pandered to critics
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Brethil
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Mar 6 2013, 5:41pm
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Wow
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Lindele
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Mar 6 2013, 5:59pm
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Thanks Lindele
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Brethil
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Mar 6 2013, 6:23pm
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That was awesome Brethil
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Ham_Sammy
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Mar 6 2013, 6:06pm
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*girl power*?
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Elenorflower
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Mar 6 2013, 6:46pm
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Well...
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Brethil
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Mar 6 2013, 7:05pm
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No so sure...
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marillaraina
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Mar 8 2013, 2:32am
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Disconcerting...
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Eleniel
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Mar 8 2013, 10:36am
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Nicely put
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glor
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Mar 6 2013, 7:49pm
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Thanks for bringing that up Glor
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Brethil
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Mar 6 2013, 8:09pm
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Except that
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sauget.diblosio
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Mar 6 2013, 8:16pm
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The critical reception of the LotR films
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burrahobbit
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Mar 6 2013, 10:17pm
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On the contrary
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Glorfindela
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Mar 6 2013, 11:03pm
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I think LOTR
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Elenorflower
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Mar 7 2013, 12:31am
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They will stand it together.
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AinurOlorin
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Mar 7 2013, 4:43pm
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I agree, In relation to amount and scope of LOTR canon changes
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Brethil
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Mar 7 2013, 6:01pm
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Wellllllllll. . . an Uther and Igrane style romping betwixt Filli (or Kili) and Tauriel
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AinurOlorin
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Mar 7 2013, 6:36pm
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**wiping tears away****
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Brethil
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Mar 7 2013, 7:12pm
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It certainly could.
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AinurOlorin
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Mar 7 2013, 11:19pm
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I totally disagree
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Elenorflower
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Mar 7 2013, 12:36am
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Half is quite good
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Lusitano
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Mar 7 2013, 1:09am
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I have to say I agree
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Sinister71
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Mar 7 2013, 2:54am
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Exactly this. //
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Eleniel
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Mar 7 2013, 7:28am
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Sinister71 : ei there!
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Lusitano
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Mar 7 2013, 7:23pm
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About Ori...
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jtarkey
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Mar 7 2013, 8:27pm
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Haha
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Lusitano
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Mar 7 2013, 8:37pm
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Ori -ble!
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tolktolk
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Mar 7 2013, 8:52pm
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Not only the brits
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Lusitano
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Mar 7 2013, 8:59pm
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Ori is trying to be
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Elenorflower
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Mar 8 2013, 1:40pm
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And the Jacksie line!
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tolktolk
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Mar 8 2013, 3:14pm
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What, as in....
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elaen32
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Mar 8 2013, 4:41pm
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Hee hee
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tolktolk
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Mar 8 2013, 4:51pm
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Adam is
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Lusitano
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Mar 8 2013, 4:53pm
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Baby is right
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jtarkey
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Mar 7 2013, 9:27pm
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I think a poll would have to be done to see whether he worked or not. A lot of
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AinurOlorin
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Mar 8 2013, 12:04am
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I think that despite your general good nature,
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AinurOlorin
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Mar 8 2013, 12:02am
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I have my good days and bad days
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Sinister71
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Mar 8 2013, 2:07am
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Prayers and well wishes to you Sinister71
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AinurOlorin
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Mar 8 2013, 4:02am
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Seconded wholeheartedly...
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Eleniel
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Mar 8 2013, 10:32am
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Agree about the foreshadowing and LotR links
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burrahobbit
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Mar 8 2013, 1:34pm
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Agreed but
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Lusitano
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Mar 8 2013, 4:59pm
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No Learning
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JWPlatt
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Mar 8 2013, 6:11pm
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There was never much hope
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Lusitano
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Mar 8 2013, 6:48pm
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You and Platt are not alone in this thought.
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AinurOlorin
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Mar 8 2013, 9:22pm
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yep exactly
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Sinister71
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Mar 8 2013, 9:40pm
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Agreed
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Lusitano
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Mar 9 2013, 4:04pm
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Awww.
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AinurOlorin
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Mar 9 2013, 8:37pm
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Thank god!
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Lusitano
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Mar 9 2013, 8:52pm
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For what it's worth. . .
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AinurOlorin
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Mar 9 2013, 9:10pm
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Your version
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Lusitano
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Mar 10 2013, 1:08am
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All Ablush again. lol
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AinurOlorin
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Mar 10 2013, 1:24am
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I have a horrible feeling
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Elenorflower
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Mar 8 2013, 6:57pm
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When would Bard and Tauriel ever come in to contact?
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DanielLB
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Mar 8 2013, 7:05pm
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I get Thranduil being
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Lusitano
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Mar 8 2013, 7:18pm
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Great!
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Lusitano
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Mar 8 2013, 5:21pm
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Thanks
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Sinister71
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Mar 8 2013, 6:09pm
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Calling it like it is
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Elessar
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Mar 8 2013, 6:46pm
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I thought the film was great
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Sinister71
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Mar 8 2013, 7:02pm
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Fair Enough
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Elessar
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Mar 8 2013, 7:31pm
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It is like
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Lusitano
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Mar 8 2013, 7:35pm
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Love Christmas
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Elessar
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Mar 8 2013, 7:46pm
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Azog SUCKED
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Sinister71
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Mar 8 2013, 8:07pm
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more like
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Sinister71
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Mar 8 2013, 8:08pm
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LOL
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Lusitano
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Mar 8 2013, 8:55pm
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I don't know about more fantastical
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Sinister71
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Mar 8 2013, 9:32pm
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I think one thing that is important, and this they have (mostly) managed,
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AinurOlorin
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Mar 8 2013, 10:50pm
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Retelling the story out of sequence.
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Michelle Johnston
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Mar 9 2013, 7:13pm
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I agree with much of what you say here, but on the matter of Azog and The Giants
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AinurOlorin
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Mar 9 2013, 8:51pm
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How they chose to avoid over balancing the book narrative
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Michelle Johnston
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Mar 10 2013, 3:02pm
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they could have easily
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Elenorflower
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Mar 10 2013, 3:19pm
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In my opinion
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Sinister71
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Mar 10 2013, 8:34pm
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I don't think it would have worked for the same director and cast to handle a prequel
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AinurOlorin
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Mar 10 2013, 8:55pm
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I'm sure there would always be connections
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Sinister71
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Mar 10 2013, 9:02pm
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The core issue
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Michelle Johnston
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Mar 10 2013, 10:55pm
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things like
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Sinister71
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Mar 10 2013, 11:41pm
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Spectacle
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JWPlatt
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Mar 10 2013, 11:56pm
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I believe he meant
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Elessar
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Mar 11 2013, 12:27am
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Feigned Ignorance
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JWPlatt
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Mar 10 2013, 11:49pm
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Golly
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Phibbus
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Mar 11 2013, 1:54am
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I share the authors view of his book
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Michelle Johnston
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Mar 11 2013, 6:53am
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As you know, I agree with a lot of what you say here, though I still
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AinurOlorin
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Mar 10 2013, 8:50pm
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Some facts remain to be seen
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Sinister71
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Mar 9 2013, 9:32pm
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Amen
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Lusitano
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Mar 10 2013, 1:11am
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lets hope the EE
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Elenorflower
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Mar 8 2013, 11:24pm
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I LOVE EE Fellowship. I HATE EE Rotk, and ONLY ever watch the theatrical of that.
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AinurOlorin
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Mar 8 2013, 11:40pm
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I prefer the EE as well
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Sinister71
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Mar 9 2013, 1:38am
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yes the Gandalf /Witchking scene
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Elenorflower
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Mar 9 2013, 12:45pm
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Cheers to that
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Lusitano
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Mar 9 2013, 4:02pm
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How about some Bofur mustache?
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Lusitano
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Mar 8 2013, 7:10pm
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Always two sides of the coin
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Elessar
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Mar 8 2013, 7:38pm
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There would be nothing to criticize
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Sinister71
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Mar 8 2013, 7:51pm
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Yep, exactly right IMO
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jtarkey
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Mar 7 2013, 5:55am
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I think we all agree on the parts that veer between meh! and oh so wrong...
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Eleniel
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Mar 7 2013, 7:31am
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I think you assume too much
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Elessar
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Mar 7 2013, 2:04pm
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Great summation
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tolktolk
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Mar 7 2013, 8:30am
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I feel the same way about Riddles
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Elenorflower
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Mar 7 2013, 12:43pm
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Don't overlook Gandalf's entrance into Goblintown.
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AinurOlorin
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Mar 7 2013, 5:17pm
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It was great
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imin
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Mar 7 2013, 5:19pm
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And I agree and entirely understand.
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AinurOlorin
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Mar 7 2013, 5:31pm
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Great Goblin
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Elessar
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Mar 7 2013, 5:36pm
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Will do.
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AinurOlorin
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Mar 7 2013, 5:41pm
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Thank ya sir :)
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Elessar
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Mar 7 2013, 6:00pm
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I am holding out hope, because of The Fire in the Moria scene within the halls,
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AinurOlorin
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Mar 7 2013, 6:34pm
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That's my hope as well
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Elessar
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Mar 7 2013, 6:48pm
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Same. The Ancient Dwarven Kingdom of Moria, "Our Sacred halls . . ." as Thorin called them. .
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AinurOlorin
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Mar 7 2013, 7:09pm
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Exactly! We have a bingo
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Elessar
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Mar 7 2013, 7:21pm
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Absolutely. And, for those who complain about too explicit a reveal, it need not be.
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AinurOlorin
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Mar 7 2013, 11:33pm
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Spot on
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Elessar
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Mar 8 2013, 1:47am
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Absolutely
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AinurOlorin
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Mar 8 2013, 2:52am
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Completely and utterly
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Salmacis81
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Mar 8 2013, 2:18am
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Yes! Sorry to leave it out
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jtarkey
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Mar 7 2013, 8:24pm
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I felt the same.
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AinurOlorin
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Mar 7 2013, 11:53pm
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That is just your opinion
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Glorfindela
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Mar 7 2013, 10:56am
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yup that is just my opinion
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Elenorflower
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Mar 7 2013, 12:52pm
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No offense...
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Arannir
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Mar 7 2013, 2:14pm
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No offence but
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Elenorflower
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Mar 7 2013, 2:43pm
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Negativity was the term you used...
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Arannir
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Mar 7 2013, 3:05pm
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Proven for who?
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Elessar
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Mar 7 2013, 4:41pm
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Really?
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imin
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Mar 7 2013, 4:18pm
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Really? I have issues with both, but
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AinurOlorin
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Mar 7 2013, 4:59pm
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I suppose I get my dander up
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Elenorflower
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Mar 7 2013, 5:51pm
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I understand.
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AinurOlorin
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Mar 7 2013, 6:28pm
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You bring up many valid points, Burrahobbit
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Brethil
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Mar 6 2013, 11:18pm
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I think that TH and LOTR are different.
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Escapist
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Mar 6 2013, 11:19pm
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Differing foci
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Brethil
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Mar 6 2013, 11:50pm
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Also
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Ham_Sammy
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Mar 7 2013, 12:06am
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So true!
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Brethil
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Mar 7 2013, 12:22am
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Bilbo
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Ham_Sammy
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Mar 7 2013, 1:47am
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Oh you just made me hoot out loud!
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Brethil
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Mar 7 2013, 1:51am
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ROFL!
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Roheryn
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Mar 7 2013, 8:33am
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Well, we've already heard him read how to change a flat tire...
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Silverlode
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Mar 7 2013, 9:02am
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Fine and finer...
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Brethil
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Mar 7 2013, 12:51pm
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Lucky Charms with Gandalf
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Ham_Sammy
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Mar 7 2013, 3:38pm
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Of course Ham Sammy!
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Brethil
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Mar 7 2013, 5:34pm
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I don't think he needs to nor should he
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Elessar
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Mar 6 2013, 5:15pm
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Oh FGS, who cares?
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bborchar
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Mar 6 2013, 5:29pm
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I should hope not
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Balderdash Baggins
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Mar 6 2013, 7:50pm
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I object to your wording
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Bellerock
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Mar 6 2013, 11:20pm
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PJ committed
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Elenorflower
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Mar 7 2013, 12:27am
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Wow
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Lindele
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Mar 7 2013, 2:37am
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Second that
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Old Toby
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Mar 7 2013, 5:26am
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Does that mean ...
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DanielLB
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Mar 7 2013, 9:07am
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PJ's not the messiah...
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Kelvarhin
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Mar 7 2013, 9:12am
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Tee Hee!
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elaen32
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Mar 7 2013, 12:18pm
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Contrition?
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Hanzkaz
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Mar 7 2013, 12:51pm
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It's better to be hot than cold
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Brethil
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Mar 7 2013, 12:53pm
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I figure I could go to hell for worse things
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Elessar
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Mar 7 2013, 2:05pm
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"walk away from the edge of hyperbole"!
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ShireHorse
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Mar 7 2013, 2:23pm
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Thanks
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Elessar
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Mar 7 2013, 4:39pm
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Wow... this thread got quite extreme in some aspects.
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Arannir
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Mar 7 2013, 7:26am
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It is that. lol
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Elessar
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Mar 7 2013, 2:00pm
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Nothing to apologize for
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Noria
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Mar 7 2013, 3:59pm
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What was the question?
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Phibbus
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Mar 9 2013, 3:17pm
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thats very interesting
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Elenorflower
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Mar 9 2013, 4:36pm
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