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A reaffirmation of what makes cinema magical : TH s failure
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Lusitano
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Mar 2 2013, 3:45pm
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It wasn't a failure...
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bborchar
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Mar 2 2013, 3:57pm
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I agree
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Brethil
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Mar 2 2013, 4:11pm
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That's a better description...
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bborchar
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Mar 2 2013, 4:23pm
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Nobody said everyone hated it.
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Lusitano
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Mar 2 2013, 4:42pm
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This article is the same criticism we've seen before...
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bborchar
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Mar 2 2013, 5:07pm
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I heartily disagree with you, and with that reviewer
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Glorfindela
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Mar 2 2013, 5:42pm
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Completely Agree
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architecthis
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Mar 2 2013, 11:42pm
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Wasn't a failure to me either
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Elessar
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Mar 3 2013, 4:41am
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Agree wholeheartedly!
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Kimtc
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Mar 3 2013, 4:58am
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I thought bag end looked great in HFR
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Ham_Sammy
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Mar 3 2013, 5:19am
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Almost convert
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Elessar
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Mar 3 2013, 5:21am
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Thanks for the link
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Brethil
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Mar 2 2013, 4:06pm
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I'm with Brethil above
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Ham_Sammy
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Mar 2 2013, 4:20pm
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No hes not
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Lusitano
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Mar 2 2013, 4:53pm
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Yeah, must agree
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Tigero
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Mar 2 2013, 4:24pm
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It wasn't a failure
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dormouse
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Mar 2 2013, 4:33pm
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Thank you!
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hamlet
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Mar 2 2013, 4:49pm
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well
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Lusitano
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Mar 2 2013, 5:08pm
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You are still generalizing a little bit.
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Escapist
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Mar 2 2013, 5:28pm
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It wasn't totally non-stop action
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Salmacis81
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Mar 2 2013, 6:39pm
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Exactly
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Ham_Sammy
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Mar 2 2013, 6:59pm
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Agree with this, too.
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Arannir
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Mar 2 2013, 7:56pm
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Reality
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JWPlatt
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Mar 2 2013, 7:17pm
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Video games and chutes and ladders
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Salmacis81
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Mar 2 2013, 9:34pm
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Blue Sky
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JWPlatt
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Mar 2 2013, 9:49pm
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Thanks for your expert opinion
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Salmacis81
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Mar 2 2013, 10:36pm
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hmmm...
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Tinkerbell
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Mar 2 2013, 11:22pm
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The second half wasn't that bad. Even aside from the MAGNIFICENCE of Gandalf's displays of magic finally getting something of their due.
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AinurOlorin
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Mar 3 2013, 2:28am
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Hear Hear! Lusitano well said.
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Elenorflower
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Mar 3 2013, 4:44pm
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It was not a failure, but the way it was unveiled and obtrusively pushed damaged the reception of the film.
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AinurOlorin
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Mar 3 2013, 2:55am
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I have to agree
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Ardamírë
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Mar 2 2013, 4:48pm
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Its not
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Lusitano
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Mar 2 2013, 5:10pm
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We will see.
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Ardamírë
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Mar 2 2013, 5:18pm
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Avatar
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JWPlatt
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Mar 2 2013, 5:27pm
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Avatar 2
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Ardamírë
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Mar 2 2013, 5:31pm
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Maybe, maybe not.
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Ham_Sammy
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Mar 2 2013, 5:37pm
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re: Oscars...
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Aragorn the Elfstone
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Mar 2 2013, 4:54pm
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Many replies
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Lusitano
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Mar 4 2013, 9:08pm
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I can accept that you personally disliked the second half.
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Escapist
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Mar 4 2013, 9:48pm
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small corrections after 10 mins
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Escapist
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Mar 4 2013, 10:08pm
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Anger Hug
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JWPlatt
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Mar 4 2013, 10:19pm
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Agreed it was cringeworthy
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tolktolk
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Mar 4 2013, 10:43pm
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I am inclined to agree with this on this scene. It could have been handled much better.
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AinurOlorin
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Mar 5 2013, 12:31am
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Wow! That makes ... three ... that share this opinion!
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Escapist
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Mar 4 2013, 11:07pm
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Make it four :P
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imin
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Mar 4 2013, 11:18pm
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Put me in the "it felt forced and over-done" camp,
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sauget.diblosio
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Mar 4 2013, 11:41pm
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Take heart - I love the scene as well.
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Aragorn the Elfstone
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Mar 4 2013, 11:39pm
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Looked and felt good/fine
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Elessar
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Mar 5 2013, 12:57am
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The big problem for me is...
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jtarkey
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Mar 5 2013, 5:30am
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Thorin is a bit of a jerk/snob
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Elessar
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Mar 5 2013, 12:10pm
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Reasons movie gives
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arithmancer
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Mar 5 2013, 2:33pm
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Why so defensive?
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tolktolk
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Mar 4 2013, 11:41pm
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Just trying to find a creative way to make a point.
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Escapist
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Mar 5 2013, 12:35am
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Nice Point
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Michelle Johnston
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Mar 5 2013, 7:25am
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Lets not get carried away with what the book achieves
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Michelle Johnston
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Mar 4 2013, 11:17pm
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I see book thorin doing all the things you listed over the course of the book
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imin
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Mar 4 2013, 11:30pm
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Squaring the Circle
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Michelle Johnston
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Mar 5 2013, 7:13am
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I think it comes down to a difference of how we view the book
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imin
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Mar 5 2013, 9:15am
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Totally agree...
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jtarkey
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Mar 5 2013, 10:37am
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I think there are a lot of people here that think it's great.
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DanielLB
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Mar 5 2013, 11:31am
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Movie was great for me.
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Elessar
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Mar 5 2013, 12:16pm
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No need to be so defensive!
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imin
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Mar 5 2013, 1:15pm
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I didn't think I was
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Elessar
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Mar 5 2013, 1:59pm
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It's just frustrating to me
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jtarkey
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Mar 5 2013, 7:17pm
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I understand......
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Elessar
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Mar 5 2013, 9:00pm
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I think it is a great film. I have met many who think the same. Was it a great adaptation? ? ?
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AinurOlorin
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Mar 5 2013, 9:29pm
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Well said
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Elessar
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Mar 5 2013, 10:03pm
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Alignment
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Michelle Johnston
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Mar 5 2013, 10:27pm
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I agree that DoS will get a much fairer critical reception
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sauget.diblosio
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Mar 5 2013, 10:58pm
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Very true. And I especially agree
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AinurOlorin
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Mar 5 2013, 11:50pm
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It has too many short comings to be a great film
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imin
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Mar 5 2013, 11:58pm
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That depends on
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Elessar
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Mar 6 2013, 12:51am
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Of course
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imin
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Mar 6 2013, 12:59am
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Positive vs Negative
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Elessar
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Mar 6 2013, 2:13am
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I respectfully disagree about the lack of greatness.
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AinurOlorin
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Mar 6 2013, 1:07am
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I agree
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imin
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Mar 6 2013, 1:20am
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And I agree with you here, also to an extent. Lmao.
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AinurOlorin
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Mar 6 2013, 2:48am
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Thank you for your post
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imin
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Mar 6 2013, 2:31pm
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You are welcome, and thank you as well.
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AinurOlorin
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Mar 7 2013, 3:56pm
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You've said everything for me!
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Eleniel
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Mar 6 2013, 7:45am
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To be fair, there are LOTS of Fairytale elements to both Hobbit and
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AinurOlorin
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Mar 6 2013, 2:08pm
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Oh, yes, the Trolls' dialogue is certainly a delight...
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Eleniel
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Mar 6 2013, 5:39pm
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The long johns were a bit tacky. I chalk it up to
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AinurOlorin
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Mar 7 2013, 3:57pm
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For the record, I have always found Waldorf and Statler, the grumpy old muppet men
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AinurOlorin
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Mar 5 2013, 9:14pm
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I think that this review has strengths, weaknesses, opportunities, and threats
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Escapist
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Mar 2 2013, 4:58pm
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I disagree about the make up
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Old Toby
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Mar 2 2013, 5:13pm
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Video Games..
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glor
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Mar 2 2013, 8:29pm
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Yeah, that's bothered me for a long time.
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sauget.diblosio
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Mar 2 2013, 9:00pm
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No insult intended!
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Old Toby
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Mar 2 2013, 9:31pm
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No don't apologise.
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glor
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Mar 2 2013, 9:52pm
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Video Game
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JWPlatt
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Mar 2 2013, 10:08pm
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JWPlatt, I've been so out of the loop...
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Patty
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Mar 2 2013, 10:22pm
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HFR
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JWPlatt
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Mar 2 2013, 10:36pm
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I do think it's a valid point
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Ham_Sammy
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Mar 2 2013, 10:54pm
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Did some research
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Brethil
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Mar 2 2013, 11:23pm
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Thanks!
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Ham_Sammy
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Mar 2 2013, 11:34pm
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Seats Versus Dollars Over Time
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JWPlatt
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Mar 2 2013, 11:46pm
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Totally true
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Brethil
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Mar 3 2013, 12:07am
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Several difficulies with drawing conclusions from that.
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Silverlode
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Mar 2 2013, 11:54pm
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True, Silverlode. We lack all the data
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Brethil
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Mar 3 2013, 12:56am
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I have to assume
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Silverlode
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Mar 3 2013, 3:00am
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Yes good point
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Ham_Sammy
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Mar 3 2013, 3:09am
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It gives a new angle to interpreting reviews
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Brethil
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Mar 3 2013, 3:42am
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Yes, well in some circles
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SirDennisC
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Mar 3 2013, 4:12am
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I think having more time to tweak it --
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SirDennisC
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Mar 3 2013, 4:08am
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Thanks so much. I hope...
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Patty
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Mar 2 2013, 10:55pm
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No word yet about DoS in HFR
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Voronwë_the_Faithful
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Mar 2 2013, 10:39pm
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Thanks, VtF...
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Patty
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Mar 2 2013, 10:57pm
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I think it will be in about the same amount of theaters as
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sauget.diblosio
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Mar 2 2013, 11:42pm
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Yes
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Owain
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Mar 3 2013, 7:40pm
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Thanks, Owain
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Patty
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Mar 3 2013, 10:04pm
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While i agree with a lot of this,
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sauget.diblosio
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Mar 2 2013, 5:28pm
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It was this review
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mefansmum
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Mar 2 2013, 5:52pm
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Funny how it was the total opposite for me
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Súlimë
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Mar 2 2013, 6:16pm
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Oh, and for me
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Glorfindela
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Mar 2 2013, 6:20pm
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This review did not change
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mefansmum
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Mar 3 2013, 2:19pm
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i loved TH in 3D
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MouthofSauron
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Mar 2 2013, 10:30pm
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It definitely wasn't a failure for me
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Súlimë
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Mar 2 2013, 6:11pm
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Just my 2 cents..
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Verbal_Daggers
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Mar 2 2013, 7:33pm
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This article is spot on
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jtarkey
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Mar 2 2013, 9:16pm
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You say that as if...
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Aragorn the Elfstone
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Mar 2 2013, 9:34pm
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One mans meat is another mans poison
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Michelle Johnston
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Mar 2 2013, 10:25pm
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In the end
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Ham_Sammy
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Mar 2 2013, 10:33pm
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The Tolkien fan in me loves the film...
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jtarkey
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Mar 2 2013, 11:13pm
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That makes total sense
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Ham_Sammy
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Mar 2 2013, 11:23pm
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The best example of what the whole film should have felt like
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jtarkey
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Mar 2 2013, 11:57pm
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i loved that. Absolutely.
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Ham_Sammy
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Mar 3 2013, 12:13am
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Investment of negative energy
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Michelle Johnston
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Mar 3 2013, 6:18am
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The fiercer the love, the fiercer the fury in dissapointment can sometimes be.
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AinurOlorin
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Mar 3 2013, 6:54am
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Reservations I had a few
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Michelle Johnston
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Mar 3 2013, 8:02am
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My thanks to you.
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AinurOlorin
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Mar 3 2013, 5:07pm
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Tarantino
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JWPlatt
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Mar 3 2013, 2:30pm
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I don't get all the Tarantino hate.
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sauget.diblosio
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Mar 3 2013, 3:17pm
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I don't care for his movies/style
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Ham_Sammy
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Mar 3 2013, 3:32pm
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Aestheticization of violence
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Michelle Johnston
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Mar 4 2013, 9:05pm
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Interesting
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Lusitano
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Mar 4 2013, 9:15pm
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Wonder and awe in Middle Earth
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burrahobbit
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Mar 3 2013, 1:15pm
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I re-watched (is that a word?) FOTR last night
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Old Toby
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Mar 4 2013, 6:59pm
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Qualifiers
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JWPlatt
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Mar 4 2013, 9:09pm
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wow, your entire first paragraph
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Old Toby
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Mar 4 2013, 11:08pm
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Concisity
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JWPlatt
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Mar 4 2013, 11:28pm
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Clarification
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Michelle Johnston
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Mar 4 2013, 8:58pm
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yes I think you are spot on
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Elenorflower
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Mar 3 2013, 4:56pm
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I never did
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Elenorflower
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Mar 3 2013, 5:26pm
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Poor Elenor
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Ardamírë
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Mar 3 2013, 6:23pm
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ha ha! yep
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Elenorflower
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Mar 3 2013, 6:28pm
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Oh I'm sure it did! //
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Ardamírë
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Mar 3 2013, 6:42pm
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Strongly disagree
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Glorfindela
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Mar 3 2013, 6:16pm
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It's not "simply incorrect" at all
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jtarkey
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Mar 3 2013, 7:46pm
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That was not my experience at all
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Ham_Sammy
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Mar 3 2013, 8:12pm
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Just goes to show how different the same film can be for people
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jtarkey
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Mar 3 2013, 8:22pm
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So very very true
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Ham_Sammy
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Mar 3 2013, 8:24pm
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Ditto
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Elessar
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Mar 3 2013, 9:24pm
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Exactlyl right
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Ham_Sammy
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Mar 3 2013, 10:35pm
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Agreed
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Glorfindela
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Mar 3 2013, 11:12pm
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Going to be fantastic
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Elessar
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Mar 3 2013, 11:24pm
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Agree about movie Thorin
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Salmacis81
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Mar 4 2013, 4:32pm
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I agree about Martin Freeman
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Elenorflower
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Mar 3 2013, 8:59pm
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I have an issue with that scene as well...
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dik-dik
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Mar 3 2013, 9:17pm
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No he didn't true.
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Ham_Sammy
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Mar 3 2013, 9:27pm
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Flawed, yes. But failure?
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Otaku-sempai
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Mar 2 2013, 9:32pm
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I understand what this person is getting at in the article
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imin
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Mar 2 2013, 11:36pm
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You hit the nail on the head!
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jtarkey
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Mar 2 2013, 11:50pm
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Exact opposite for me...
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Aragorn the Elfstone
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Mar 2 2013, 11:55pm
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It is strange how we view things differently
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imin
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Mar 3 2013, 12:30am
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Hmmm? So which type of subjectivity ...?
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Brethil
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Mar 3 2013, 1:00am
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I think the emotional engagement in the film
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imin
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Mar 3 2013, 1:37am
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I had a feeling we would agree
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Brethil
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Mar 3 2013, 2:06am
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Oh no, how terribly predictable of me! :P
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imin
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Mar 3 2013, 2:13am
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Interesting? Indeed - we always find things to discuss!
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Brethil
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Mar 3 2013, 2:35am
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In your humble opinion
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Lindele
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Mar 3 2013, 7:28am
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Viewing #13 for me today. . .
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kareniel
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Mar 3 2013, 1:05pm
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I agree with that article 100%
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Elenorflower
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Mar 3 2013, 4:04pm
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It's one opinion, but that's all it is.
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Rostron2
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Mar 4 2013, 6:58pm
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