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The F Words


Feb 28 2013, 2:52pm

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The F Words [In reply to] Can't Post

1. I confess, I find all those "F" names are confusing. Do you suppose Tolkien did that so he could just file them all under "F" when he was writing this? Do you have any tricks for keeping all these characters straight? Here's where I really lose some credibility in the Reading Room, but it's a fun story, so what the heck. I was a movie firster who stumbled upon the Encyclopedia of Arda because of their movie guides. Being enamored of the depth and history of Middle Earth through the movies, I started reading the encyclopedia entries. I probably read those entries for 2-3 years before I realized the the Sil even existed! At the time I felt like an idiot, but in retrospect, reading those entries made the F name problem nearly nonexistent for me.

2. Do you have a favorite name from the cast list Tolkien gives us here? Which of Feanor’s sons would you like to get to know better or have a beer with?
I like Curufin the Crafty's nickname. Having a beer with Amras would be nice because then I could ask him if he burned in the ships or survived.

4. What do you think about the description of the Noldor as a people? Can you see the connection between the qualities Tolkien shares about them here and the way they turn out later? And what kinds of things might they have surpassed their teachers on?
Absolutely. They are the proudest of people, and pride is a deadly sin for a reason.

5. The Noldor strike me as being acquiring in nature – though it’s mostly knowledge at this point. Does the trouble start when they start to feel attached to the things they’ve learned or made? Is “attachment” the opposite (or even the dark side) of “longing” in Tolkien?
"Love not to deeply the work of thine own hands" is the warning given to the Noldor. Advice they do not heed. I wouldn't say attachment and longing are opposites, as that would imply one is god while the other is not. ***SPOILER ALERT!!!!!!***Attachment what got Feanor in so much trouble, while longing is what got the rest of the Noldor to follow him to such disastrous ends.

Also, I do have a question about these discussions. Oftentimes, like on the last question here, it's hard for me to answer a question about the current chapter without thinking of something that happens in a later chapter. Is it preferable to stick to the chapter at hand when answering these questions or is it acceptable to answer with knowledge of future chapter events in mind?

As three great Jewels they were in form. But not until the End, when Fëanor shall return who perished ere the Sun was made, and sits now in the Halls of Awaiting and comes no more among his kin; not until the Sun passes and the Moon falls, shall it be known of what substance they were made. Like the crystal of diamonds it appeared, and yet was more strong than adamant, so that no violence could mar it or break it within the Kingdom of Arda.

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*Silmarillion Discussion: Chapter 5, "Of Eldamar and the Princes of the Eldalie", Part 3 -- Meet the Noldor Cast** weaver Send a private message to weaver Feb 28 2013, 2:28am
    The Quenya alphabet stopped at F CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG Feb 28 2013, 3:43am
    The F Words Finwe Send a private message to Finwe Feb 28 2013, 2:52pm
        Jumping ahead to other chapters CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG Feb 28 2013, 3:08pm
            That Makes Sense Finwe Send a private message to Finwe Feb 28 2013, 3:15pm
    wait who has fins? is this a Jimmy Buffet song? elevorn Send a private message to elevorn Feb 28 2013, 6:53pm
    More Late Answers sador Send a private message to sador Mar 3 2013, 3:43pm
    a few more comments telain Send a private message to telain Mar 5 2013, 6:39pm
    some answers elostirion74 Send a private message to elostirion74 Mar 11 2013, 9:46pm


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