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Quick answers - part II

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Feb 26 2013, 2:56pm


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3. If it wasn’t for the grinding ice, would everyone have just waded back and forth across the narrow sea from Aman to Middle Earth?
Yep. Including Melkor and his minions.

What would it be like if you could regularly travel to and from Paradise?
A battlefield; i.e. not Paradise any more.

4. Are you a water person?


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I wish I was a fisherman / tumblin' on the seas
Far away from dry land / and it's bitter memories
Casting out my sweet line / with abandonment and love
No ceiling bearin' down on me / 'cept the starry sky above...


Well - not really.


Can you relate to the Teleri and their relationship to the sea?
Not really either.

Do you think Tolkien loved and longed for the sea himself?
I would go with FarFromHome's answer.


5. Why are Tolkien’s Elves so filled with longing – for the sea, for the friends and relatives they are separated from, for the site of paradise?
I would expect them to be attracted to water in itself, as reflecting Ulmo and the Music of the Ainur.
But in LotR it indeed seems that the yearning is for Valinor.

How do these kinds of longings affect the way the Elves see themselves and their relationship to where they live?
As far as I understand, they self-identify by their longing for Varda's stars.

6. The Noldor and Vanyar traveled by island – what trick did Ulmo use to get the Teleri to Aman?
I think it was the same island.

And what was it that Osse said that convinced some of them to stick around and become the Falathrim, even though they longed for Aman and their friends?
Magic - which is as usual connected to music.

Does love of kin overpower love of paradise for the Elves?
I don't think that was all.

7. What does this opening section contribute to Tolkien’s legendarium?
The division of the three kindreds; also the image of Osse as half-rebel (originally, in BoLT, he was a full rebel).


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*Silmarillion Discussion: Chapter 5, "Of Eldamar and the Princes of the Eldalie", Part 1 -- Who Goes and Who Stays* weaver Send a private message to weaver Feb 21 2013, 6:03am
    Weaver! sador Send a private message to sador Feb 21 2013, 12:46pm
    Long journeys on a muddy boat elevorn Send a private message to elevorn Feb 21 2013, 7:40pm
        Sea-longing- a personal Tolkien thing? noWizardme Send a private message to noWizardme Feb 21 2013, 10:58pm
            Maybe an early childhood experience FarFromHome Send a private message to FarFromHome Feb 22 2013, 10:48am
                I agree elaen32 Send a private message to elaen32 Feb 22 2013, 12:22pm
                    About the gulls FarFromHome Send a private message to FarFromHome Feb 22 2013, 2:31pm
                    And welcome to the Reading Room! FarFromHome Send a private message to FarFromHome Feb 22 2013, 3:15pm
                        Thanks for the welcome elaen32 Send a private message to elaen32 Feb 22 2013, 6:47pm
    Passage and memory, hope and regret, duty and love. squire Send a private message to squire Feb 22 2013, 3:36pm
        Alas for the wailing of the gulls... FarFromHome Send a private message to FarFromHome Feb 22 2013, 5:05pm
            'In Eressea, in Elvenhome that no man can discover, Where the leaves fall not: land of my people for ever!' squire Send a private message to squire Feb 22 2013, 8:08pm
    Home sweet home CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG Feb 23 2013, 11:29pm
        Mmm, tuna... FarFromHome Send a private message to FarFromHome Feb 24 2013, 5:12pm
    Quick answers - part II sador Send a private message to sador Feb 26 2013, 2:56pm
    Sorry I'm so late to the party Finwe Send a private message to Finwe Feb 27 2013, 7:38pm
        Good observation CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG Feb 27 2013, 7:52pm
            Perhaps even Finwe Send a private message to Finwe Feb 28 2013, 2:17pm
    a few thoughts telain Send a private message to telain Feb 27 2013, 8:03pm

 
 
 

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