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Lieutenant of Dol Guldur
Gondor
Feb 23 2013, 11:47pm
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Arrogant? Yes! Evil? No! And it's his own theme ;)
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[..] that theme was used in Isengard before it is heard in Mordor That theme never appears in Mordor ;) It's Sarumans own theme. Sometimes called Isengard theme sometimes Sarumans theme. What you're talking about is the Orc Theme (a industrial pattern rhythm) which appears first alongside the Saruman theme in Isengard (e.g. the moth scene or almost every scene you see Isengard or the Uruk-hai) and later in Mordor when the Orc army leaves Mordor. You can also hear this rhythm in AUJ in Goblin Town.
Saruman needed to come across in a different light in The Hobbit, and he didn't. Of course he did. In LOTR (movies) he appears as a corrupt and evil wizard. As a puppet of Sauron and as someone who seeks power. He fears Saurons power and that's why he joins him. In AUJ he is portrayed as an arrogant bureaucrat. He sees himself as the head of everything (which he is in a way as head of the Istari and the White Council) and wants to be informed about everything what's going on in Middle-earth. He feels a bit overlooked. That's what bosses are like. Arrogance isn't a strenght but it isn't the same as being evil. As a bureaucrat he wants proof and not possible options. A necromancer? It's even He can't and don't want to believe that Sauron is back. He thinks that the Enemy is defeated. Why? Because he is arrogant and doesn't want to be wrong.
"There is only one Lord of the Ring, only one who can bend it to his will. And he does not share power."
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Was Saruman portrayed as too evil?
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AshNazg
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Feb 23 2013, 12:56pm
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Christopher's performance wasn't really striking
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Tigero
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Feb 23 2013, 1:42pm
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Saruman and evil
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billzy2
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Feb 24 2013, 3:14am
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Well
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Radagast-Aiwendil
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Feb 23 2013, 1:55pm
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Arrogant? Yes! Evil? No! And it's his own theme ;)
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Lieutenant of Dol Guldur
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Feb 23 2013, 11:47pm
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Yes
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Radagast-Aiwendil
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Feb 24 2013, 8:26am
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Agreed
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BalrogTrainer
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Feb 24 2013, 12:21pm
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Oh, Thank God she couldn't! Nor would she have been able to.
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AinurOlorin
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Feb 25 2013, 2:36am
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You are wrong on many counts.
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Lightice
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Feb 23 2013, 2:05pm
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Boyens described Galadriel as "the most powerful being in Middle-Earth at this time", that's where I got that from
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Radagast-Aiwendil
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Feb 23 2013, 2:28pm
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Strange interpretation, if you ask me.
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Lightice
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Feb 23 2013, 5:21pm
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Very well
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Radagast-Aiwendil
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Feb 23 2013, 5:33pm
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Hostile attitudes reflect
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Lightice
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Feb 23 2013, 5:54pm
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Like a mirror?
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Roheryn
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Feb 23 2013, 9:50pm
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Thankyou :)
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AshNazg
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Feb 24 2013, 7:55pm
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Some background.
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Lightice
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Feb 25 2013, 12:50pm
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I don't think the OP was in any way 'bashing' the movie
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Súlimë
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Feb 24 2013, 2:13pm
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Not really.
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Roheryn
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Feb 23 2013, 10:02pm
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She is one better!
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Ham_Sammy
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Feb 23 2013, 10:19pm
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I thought him a bit over the top
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Angharad73
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Feb 23 2013, 3:20pm
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Yes I agree, that's precisely the problem
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Radagast-Aiwendil
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Feb 23 2013, 4:22pm
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Possibly
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Glorfindela
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Feb 23 2013, 5:01pm
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Yes
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CathrineB
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Feb 23 2013, 4:07pm
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I agree with this
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Súlimë
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Feb 24 2013, 2:16pm
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Saruman in FOTR...
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Salmacis81
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Feb 25 2013, 1:58am
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Not to my way of thinking
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IdrilofGondolin
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Feb 23 2013, 5:10pm
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It was my assumption
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Esmeralda
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Feb 23 2013, 9:04pm
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I think that would be a bit cliche.
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Ataahua
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Feb 23 2013, 10:39pm
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Yes, that's it
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Glorfindela
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Feb 23 2013, 11:34pm
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I agree with Lightice on this.
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Salmacis81
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Feb 23 2013, 11:44pm
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Not really for me
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Rostron2
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Feb 25 2013, 7:57pm
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