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jtarkey
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Feb 22 2013, 6:31pm


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I know PJ said he tried to shoot it the same way he shot LOTR, but it sure didn't feel like it.

A lot of the lighting and overall aesthetic of the film fell victim to technology. I kind of knew we were in trouble when they were talking about the red cameras eating color. Couple that with the 5k and 48fps and the result looks very strange. I still noticed the whole look of the film was a little off, even in 2D 24fps.

Now I'll talk about what I would have done in PJ's position in regards to all my problems with the film...

I would have shot on film, literally the exact same way LOTR was shot. This alone would have helped these films flow more with LOTR. It's a mistake that a lot of directors seem to make when returning to a franchise. They think they need to push some kind of visual envelope, and forget what made their original films so appealing in the first place. I still would have amped up the color pallet for the film, just to give it a little more of a fantasy feel.

I would move the Erebor flashback to the unexpected party. I would still start with the Bilbo/Frodo intro, but I would have gotten Ian Holm THE SAME WIG!!!!!!!!!! I would have put the dwarves into 2 groups. Thorin, Balin, Bofur, Fili, and Kili in the "main dwarves" group. The rest could just be like the roadies of the quest. They would stay in the background and not try too hard to make you care for them. Although, they could be made to look more similar so they act more as a group of their own.

Radagast can stay, minus his rabbit sled and the bird poop. The Idea of Azog's inclusion wouldn't be bad if it was handled differently. To be honest, it must have been tough for the production to create a villain who's main purpose is to speed up pace. I don't know what I would do differently there, it's a tough one. I would also keep the stone giants, but I would have them be in the distance. Give the company and Bilbo a few shots of being in awe. Maybe one stray boulder comes close to them, so they decide to go into the cave.

I would have built some new outdoor sets for Rivendell. That's something I miss terribly in the film. If I'm not mistaken, the company stayed there for a while in the book. So I would maybe have a short sequence of showing nights by the fire with elves, some little "Bilbo falling in love with Rivendell" moments. Get rid of Ori complaining about the food and Bombour breaking the table. I would want to show that the elves had true hospitality, and that Rivendell really felt homely.

I'll stop there at risk of going on and on.
"You're love of the halflings leaf has clearly slowed your mind"

Subject User Time
What do you dislike the most: TH AUJ Pt. 2 jtarkey Send a private message to jtarkey Feb 22 2013, 4:57am
    Some more 'dislikes' Sślimė Send a private message to Sślimė Feb 22 2013, 5:56am
        Gross stuff lindorian Send a private message to lindorian Feb 22 2013, 8:05pm
            The problem with that logic for me is... jtarkey Send a private message to jtarkey Feb 22 2013, 8:15pm
                Exactly. I think some of the best moments for kids (some of which were also the best moments for the inner child of many of us adults) AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Feb 23 2013, 12:29am
                I second that. And also, while ... Kasiopeia Send a private message to Kasiopeia Feb 23 2013, 5:48pm
        Agreed on pretty much all of this. AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Feb 23 2013, 12:15am
    I would've included ... DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Feb 22 2013, 8:27am
    Drug Reference IdrilofGondolin Send a private message to IdrilofGondolin Feb 22 2013, 4:01pm
        This is actually something that doesn't bother me at all. jtarkey Send a private message to jtarkey Feb 22 2013, 5:58pm
        Coincidentally, just seen this on tumblr! Eleniel Send a private message to Eleniel Feb 23 2013, 2:08pm
            Well IdrilofGondolin Send a private message to IdrilofGondolin Feb 23 2013, 2:13pm
    Thank you good idea Lusitano Send a private message to Lusitano Feb 22 2013, 4:06pm
        Sequels are rarely as good as the first lol Elessar Send a private message to Elessar Feb 22 2013, 4:22pm
            Lets change the tradition Lusitano Send a private message to Lusitano Feb 22 2013, 5:47pm
                Agreed jtarkey Send a private message to jtarkey Feb 22 2013, 6:31pm
                    Very much agreed Lusitano Send a private message to Lusitano Feb 22 2013, 8:38pm
                        Exactly jtarkey Send a private message to jtarkey Feb 22 2013, 8:50pm
                            Well Lusitano Send a private message to Lusitano Feb 22 2013, 9:47pm
                                Casting is a big one jtarkey Send a private message to jtarkey Feb 22 2013, 10:01pm
    Orcs / Gobelins Lucky Luke Send a private message to Lucky Luke Feb 22 2013, 4:57pm
        Actually Glorfindela Send a private message to Glorfindela Feb 22 2013, 5:32pm
            Really, about the Wargs>? They are SOOOOO much BETTER in An Unexpected Journey. AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Feb 23 2013, 12:21am
        Poor Gollum! And a different thought about Orc/Goblin portrayal Lio Send a private message to Lio Feb 22 2013, 9:47pm
    I'm not going to rant about Azog again... BoromirOfWinterfell Send a private message to BoromirOfWinterfell Feb 22 2013, 8:31pm
        Yes Lusitano Send a private message to Lusitano Feb 22 2013, 8:46pm
            They were very limited in what they could get him to do. DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Feb 22 2013, 9:23pm
                I agree Lusitano Send a private message to Lusitano Feb 22 2013, 9:40pm
                    I would be a little peeved if I was C. Lee jtarkey Send a private message to jtarkey Feb 22 2013, 9:45pm
                        Right Lusitano Send a private message to Lusitano Feb 22 2013, 9:51pm
                        Unimportant to us, perhaps? DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Feb 22 2013, 9:59pm
                        Is that not the point, after all? Tintallė Send a private message to Tintallė Feb 24 2013, 7:05pm
                            Mixed Messages JWPlatt Feb 24 2013, 7:47pm
    Should be grumpy not dopey. (Book plot spoiler warning for the two people who haven't read it yet). Bumblingidiot Send a private message to Bumblingidiot Feb 22 2013, 9:37pm
    Just one thing: Thorin's last speech. I hate cheese. PJ, RESHOOT THAT SCENE! xxxyyy Send a private message to xxxyyy Feb 23 2013, 3:31pm
        I have a feeling from what I have read that mefansmum Feb 23 2013, 4:24pm
    here are mine triptrap Send a private message to triptrap Feb 24 2013, 7:57pm

 
 
 

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