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arithmancer
Grey Havens
Feb 22 2013, 12:26pm
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In "The Hobbit" (the book) the map of the Lonely Mountain uses the English runes and the English language. It can be argued that Tolkien did this back in '37 but would later have chosen to do something different (were his Dwarf language and forms of writing even developed in '37?). The most logical "something different" to do would be to use the Cirth Erebor, the runes that were used by the Dwarves of Erebor, AND the language of the Dwarves.This is something the filmmakers could have done to make "The Hobbit" (movies) fit better into LotR history.
On the other hand, it is a revision Tolkien did not make. It is also possible that Tolkien would not have changed this in his classic "children's book" because (for those children so inclined) they could have the fun of deciphering for themselves the secret inscription of the map. (I actually was so inclined, but for some reason never grasped that the text was in English...an opportunity lost!) Which could be a reason to leave this in the film, as it was in the book.
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Inscriptions on the pillars in Erebor
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Earl
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Feb 21 2013, 3:29pm
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Darn...
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Rostron2
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Feb 21 2013, 4:07pm
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Well, we've only seen but one chamber...
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Earl
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Feb 22 2013, 6:44am
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Fantastic
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Brethil
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Feb 21 2013, 4:25pm
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Yeah those are hard to read. I wouldn't recommend straining your eyes :) //
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Earl
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Feb 22 2013, 6:46am
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Cool beans!
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Roheryn
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Feb 21 2013, 9:24pm
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I too noticed them immediately in the theatre :)
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Earl
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Feb 22 2013, 6:47am
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as awesomely geeky as this all is, I'm once again going to state why I'm hugely dissapointed in the use of runes in the Hobbit so far:
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Xanaseb
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Feb 22 2013, 1:23am
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For me, this is possibly on a par with the design and role of Azog in the film... actually scratch that, it is worse. Yes, you now think I'm bonkers :P //
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Xanaseb
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Feb 22 2013, 1:26am
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Oh, I did not know the difference
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Earl
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Feb 22 2013, 6:50am
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haha, yep, there's a difference alright! Here's what those runes say in Cirth Erebor:
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Xanaseb
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Feb 22 2013, 8:47am
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Well, don't get too worked up over it yet...
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Earl
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Feb 22 2013, 9:21am
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The answer is likely simple.
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arithmancer
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Feb 22 2013, 12:26pm
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Bomby has his Key in his hands...
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Bombadil
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Feb 22 2013, 8:53am
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I think they spell out Durin's Heir. /
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DanielLB
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Feb 22 2013, 8:56am
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The inscription reads "DURIN HEIR" :) //
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Earl
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Feb 22 2013, 9:06am
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Sorry Earl..Bomby was Busy looking in the appendix?//
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Bombadil
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Feb 22 2013, 9:17am
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Bomby's Key to Erebor...
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Bombadil
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Feb 22 2013, 9:10am
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Interesting.
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Roheryn
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Feb 22 2013, 11:13am
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Yes! I did notice this, but I thought nothing of it. I simply assumed they had made an error!
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Xanaseb
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Feb 24 2013, 1:40pm
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Actually, no, I was wrong...
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Roheryn
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Feb 24 2013, 11:48pm
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ok, well that is more comfortable. . . but yeah, I just simply don't find it reasonable though ;) //
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Xanaseb
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Feb 25 2013, 12:15pm
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Great sleuthing, NZS! (and thanks, Ro!)//
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Elizabeth
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Feb 24 2013, 7:34pm
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I'm a bit disappointed, too
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Angharad73
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Feb 22 2013, 12:54pm
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I love that they've used the Runes which Tolkien used in The Hobbit.
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dernwyn
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Feb 24 2013, 7:25pm
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