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"Wormbeard" at work...

noWizardme
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Feb 21 2013, 10:01pm


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Certainly, the dwarves' dissatisfaction could be just normal politics, but I'm going to hold onto the hint that it has an outside cause, and enjoy speculating about Plots caused by the bad guys. Maybe there's a Wormtongue equivalent (Wormbeard! Smile ) at work?...

What's the aim of the putative plot? Maybe to scatter the dwarves into smaller, more vulnerable colonies. Or maybe the idea is to spread dissatisfaction and a lust for the glories of the Old Halls so as to enhance the chances of the kind of embassy Sauron eventually makes. The latter idea is my current favourite: it would explain why Gloin seems to regard the sequence Disquiet --> Moria adventure ---> Sauron's ambassador as if its a series of related events.

OK, "Wormbeard" is not essential to this idea, but I quite like the thought of him (or indeed, her).

Of course there is also a Tolkienish plot here: the author uses the Council of Elrond to set us up for the Fellowship's decision 2 chapters on to travel through Moria and not the Gap of Rohan (and other later matters). But JRRT usually avoids a contrived info dump : the characters' speeches are usually consistent with their agendas and character. So I think Gloin raises Moria for a reason that ought to make sense to him, rather than because the author needs us to know.

Disclaimers: The words of noWizardme may stand on their heads! I'm often wrong about things, and its fun to be taught more....
Feel free to meddle in the affairs of noWizardMe by agreeing or disagreeing (politely...) with my posts! I may not be subtle, but at least I'm usually slow to anger...

Subject User Time
Dwarves' lost opportunity Mixel Send a private message to Mixel Feb 1 2013, 11:52pm
    Which war do you mean? Otaku-sempai Send a private message to Otaku-sempai Feb 2 2013, 9:00pm
        That's my guess too... noWizardme Send a private message to noWizardme Feb 3 2013, 5:04pm
            I mean War of Dwarves and Orcs Mixel Send a private message to Mixel Feb 3 2013, 5:25pm
                Yeah, that did happen. Escapist Send a private message to Escapist Feb 3 2013, 5:31pm
    Much about the dwarves is unknown, I think. Escapist Send a private message to Escapist Feb 3 2013, 5:07pm
    The war was incredibly vicious PhantomS Send a private message to PhantomS Feb 3 2013, 11:56pm
    Mount Gundabad Felagund Send a private message to Felagund Feb 7 2013, 1:34pm
        Good ol' Gundabad PhantomS Send a private message to PhantomS Feb 7 2013, 3:30pm
            Gundabad, and "Of Dwarves & Men" Felagund Send a private message to Felagund Feb 17 2013, 11:32am
                That's very informative CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG Feb 17 2013, 2:34pm
                    Something fishy about the whole Moria reconquest project? noWizardme Send a private message to noWizardme Feb 20 2013, 10:10pm
                        I'm never sure what to read into that either CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG Feb 20 2013, 10:42pm
                            "Wormbeard" at work... noWizardme Send a private message to noWizardme Feb 21 2013, 10:01pm
                        Moria Cirashala Send a private message to Cirashala Feb 25 2013, 11:13pm

 
 
 

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