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arithmancer
Grey Havens
Feb 20 2013, 12:56am
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When the book was read... *spoilers*
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My son has had (it seems to me) a very similar reaction to yours. He is 8 (second grade) right now and just finished reading the book. It is well above his "official" reading level. But his reaction was very similar to yours in terms of really sympathizing with/identifying with the Dwarves. He did not choose to discuss the book much, with the exception that when Bilbo gave the Arkenstone away he was so upset by this on the Dwarves' behalf that he sought reassurance from me that they would get it back. Which I find fascinating, because I did not have this reaction. I was six when I read the book, and it was likewise above my reading level and I stuck with it despite its difficulty. For me the character I most loved and identified with was Bilbo. The Dwarves were interesting and at times funny and the reason for the adventure but were mostly important to me because they became Bilbo's friends. I was sad when Thorin sent him away, and also sad when Thorin died because Bilbo was saddened by these things. The only one I recall liking for himself was Balin, I think because he seemed so grandfatherly and this appealed to me. I think that is one reason I like the movie choice to make him older than Thorin, my mental image of him is "grandfather", whereas my mental image of Thorin is less distinct and certainly less age-specific. I do agree with you that things like the narrator "talking" to the reader probably worked so well for all of us who read it young precisely because it is like something an adult telling us a story would have done in our real life. I recall reading a quote from a review of the book (somewhat negative review) that described "The Hobbit" as a book only a terribly precocious child could love. Which made me smile as I certainly did love it.
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Will Dáin be worthy of being called King? (***spoilers***, naturally)
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Roheryn
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Feb 18 2013, 7:21am
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Did you accept it in the book?
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imin
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Feb 18 2013, 11:28am
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One way it could be handled
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alienorchid
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Feb 18 2013, 1:21pm
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This will be what makes it work
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Ham_Sammy
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Feb 18 2013, 3:05pm
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Doubt it will be a problem *spoilers*
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arithmancer
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Feb 18 2013, 1:53pm
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Anything is better than Thorin
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stoutfiles
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Feb 18 2013, 2:31pm
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Explain me why
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Marionette
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Feb 19 2013, 5:52pm
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Lots of reasons
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stoutfiles
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Feb 19 2013, 7:43pm
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We will still see 3,4 and 5.
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Ham_Sammy
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Feb 19 2013, 9:24pm
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I truly hope we don't see a racist Thorin* *Spoilers**
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Old Toby
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Feb 19 2013, 10:24pm
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I don't want to see that either
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Ham_Sammy
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Feb 19 2013, 11:03pm
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A suggestion
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Old Toby
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Feb 19 2013, 11:44pm
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Completely!
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Ham_Sammy
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Feb 19 2013, 11:57pm
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"'Descendent of rats,' indeed."
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Otaku-sempai
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Feb 20 2013, 9:45pm
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King Dain
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Súlimë
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Feb 18 2013, 3:32pm
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It's hard to say at this point
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Old Toby
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Feb 18 2013, 4:06pm
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A clarification
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Old Toby
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Feb 18 2013, 5:00pm
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I've always felt that Bard and his people had a very good claim
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Bellerock
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Feb 19 2013, 1:21am
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I can only agree with some of what you say, Bellerock.
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ShireHorse
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Feb 19 2013, 7:47pm
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I agree that Bilbo pobably shouldn't have sparred with the dragon.
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Bellerock
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Feb 20 2013, 1:45am
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It depends on how this is handled in the movie
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Angharad73
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Feb 18 2013, 5:42pm
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Why PJ has done the dirty on Dain in AUJ is a bit of a mystery...
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Eleniel
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Feb 18 2013, 6:21pm
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Yes, I'm wondering why
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ShireHorse
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Feb 18 2013, 7:57pm
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Good point
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Lio
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Feb 18 2013, 9:27pm
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I really hope it will be Thorin
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Old Toby
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Feb 18 2013, 10:18pm
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I'm not sure it even matters
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Rostron2
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Feb 18 2013, 9:51pm
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An uphill climb for us...and the Company
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Brethil
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Feb 19 2013, 3:11am
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Shakespearean finale
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Old Toby
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Feb 19 2013, 3:44am
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RA brings a classical intensity
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Brethil
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Feb 19 2013, 5:51pm
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Nice post
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imin
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Feb 19 2013, 4:03am
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Thank you, Imin! To answer your questions
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Brethil
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Feb 19 2013, 6:33pm
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Another great post :)
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imin
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Feb 20 2013, 12:02am
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When the book was read... *spoilers*
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arithmancer
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Feb 20 2013, 12:56am
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That is interesting
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imin
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Feb 20 2013, 3:37pm
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Explains the Thorin issues...(laughing)
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Brethil
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Feb 20 2013, 4:10am
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Sounds like we are both a little bit jealous of each other, haha
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imin
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Feb 20 2013, 3:55pm
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Indeed!
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Brethil
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Feb 20 2013, 4:52pm
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I think you summed it up...
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swordwhale
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Feb 19 2013, 4:32am
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Yes the end is going to be devastating
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Ham_Sammy
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Feb 19 2013, 5:34am
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Personally...
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marillaraina
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Feb 19 2013, 8:41am
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I agree! (*spoilers* of course)
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Angharad73
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Feb 19 2013, 9:19am
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Yeah
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marillaraina
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Feb 19 2013, 10:06am
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Yep
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Angharad73
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Feb 19 2013, 10:39am
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LOL!
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Old Toby
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Feb 19 2013, 3:29pm
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Indeed
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Ham_Sammy
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Feb 19 2013, 3:46pm
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The tissue concession
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Brethil
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Feb 20 2013, 4:41am
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But surely "random" is the whole point, marillarania?
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ShireHorse
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Feb 19 2013, 5:08pm
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Is it really random, though?
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Angharad73
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Feb 19 2013, 5:59pm
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Fan wanking IMO
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marillaraina
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Feb 20 2013, 10:41pm
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Great thoughts, Brethil.
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Roheryn
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Feb 19 2013, 11:01am
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Thanks Ro!
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Brethil
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Feb 19 2013, 7:58pm
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:-) Musings...
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Roheryn
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Feb 19 2013, 11:12pm
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That is my view as well
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Ham_Sammy
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Feb 19 2013, 11:25pm
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One license
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Brethil
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Feb 20 2013, 12:44am
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Thorin's fate **spoilers**
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Old Toby
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Feb 20 2013, 5:10am
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Dain has to become king,no matter what.
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Thorins_apprentice
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Feb 19 2013, 7:05am
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Reading the book...
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Marionette
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Feb 19 2013, 10:11pm
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I think a lot of it depends on Billy Connolly's portrayal.
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Kimtc
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Feb 20 2013, 4:32am
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I've just begun to wonder
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ShireHorse
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Feb 20 2013, 1:28pm
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This is an excellent concept!
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Kimtc
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Feb 20 2013, 2:51pm
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That's a great idea!
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GloryBox
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Feb 20 2013, 6:19pm
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It would help (spoilers)
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Brethil
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Feb 20 2013, 8:34pm
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Dain as Rebuilder
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Ham_Sammy
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Feb 20 2013, 8:49pm
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Oh, fantastic idea!
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Roheryn
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Feb 20 2013, 11:30pm
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Oh I like this idea!
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Súlimë
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Feb 21 2013, 8:14am
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Interesting idea.
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Macfeast
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Feb 21 2013, 1:45pm
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Your "ride of the...
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GloryBox
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Feb 21 2013, 6:08pm
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Going by Dain's words in LOTR to the Witch King
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emre43
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Feb 20 2013, 2:21pm
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