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alienorchid
Lorien
Feb 18 2013, 1:21pm
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is to show Dain as being a fair, just and worthy leader in comparison to Thorin's sickness. Maybe showing that Dain is more concerned about the safety and survival of his people than about the gold and treasures. That way both the audience and the remaining members of the company could almost feel relieved that Dain is King Under the Mountain, even though they will be heartbroken that Thorin is gone. I'm thinking here about Balin's comment to Thorin in Bag End where he says that the life Thorin built for them in the Blue Mountains is worth more than any gold or treasure (can't remember the exact quote - I've only seen it 5 times!). Still, like you say, it might not be enough for Balin and those closest to Thorin. Even though they may support Dain as the King, they might have the same kind of feelings as Frodo when he returns to the Shire - that Erebor is saved, but not for them.
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Will Dáin be worthy of being called King? (***spoilers***, naturally)
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Roheryn
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Feb 18 2013, 7:21am
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Did you accept it in the book?
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imin
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Feb 18 2013, 11:28am
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One way it could be handled
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alienorchid
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Feb 18 2013, 1:21pm
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This will be what makes it work
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Ham_Sammy
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Feb 18 2013, 3:05pm
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Doubt it will be a problem *spoilers*
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arithmancer
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Feb 18 2013, 1:53pm
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Anything is better than Thorin
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stoutfiles
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Feb 18 2013, 2:31pm
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Explain me why
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Marionette
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Feb 19 2013, 5:52pm
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Lots of reasons
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stoutfiles
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Feb 19 2013, 7:43pm
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We will still see 3,4 and 5.
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Ham_Sammy
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Feb 19 2013, 9:24pm
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I truly hope we don't see a racist Thorin* *Spoilers**
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Old Toby
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Feb 19 2013, 10:24pm
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I don't want to see that either
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Ham_Sammy
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Feb 19 2013, 11:03pm
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A suggestion
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Old Toby
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Feb 19 2013, 11:44pm
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Completely!
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Ham_Sammy
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Feb 19 2013, 11:57pm
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"'Descendent of rats,' indeed."
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Otaku-sempai
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Feb 20 2013, 9:45pm
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King Dain
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Súlimë
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Feb 18 2013, 3:32pm
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It's hard to say at this point
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Old Toby
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Feb 18 2013, 4:06pm
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A clarification
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Old Toby
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Feb 18 2013, 5:00pm
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I've always felt that Bard and his people had a very good claim
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Bellerock
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Feb 19 2013, 1:21am
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I can only agree with some of what you say, Bellerock.
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ShireHorse
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Feb 19 2013, 7:47pm
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I agree that Bilbo pobably shouldn't have sparred with the dragon.
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Bellerock
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Feb 20 2013, 1:45am
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It depends on how this is handled in the movie
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Angharad73
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Feb 18 2013, 5:42pm
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Why PJ has done the dirty on Dain in AUJ is a bit of a mystery...
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Eleniel
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Feb 18 2013, 6:21pm
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Yes, I'm wondering why
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ShireHorse
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Feb 18 2013, 7:57pm
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Good point
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Lio
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Feb 18 2013, 9:27pm
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I really hope it will be Thorin
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Old Toby
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Feb 18 2013, 10:18pm
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I'm not sure it even matters
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Rostron2
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Feb 18 2013, 9:51pm
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An uphill climb for us...and the Company
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Brethil
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Feb 19 2013, 3:11am
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Shakespearean finale
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Old Toby
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Feb 19 2013, 3:44am
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RA brings a classical intensity
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Brethil
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Feb 19 2013, 5:51pm
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Nice post
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imin
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Feb 19 2013, 4:03am
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Thank you, Imin! To answer your questions
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Brethil
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Feb 19 2013, 6:33pm
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Another great post :)
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imin
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Feb 20 2013, 12:02am
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When the book was read... *spoilers*
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arithmancer
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Feb 20 2013, 12:56am
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That is interesting
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imin
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Feb 20 2013, 3:37pm
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Explains the Thorin issues...(laughing)
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Brethil
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Feb 20 2013, 4:10am
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Sounds like we are both a little bit jealous of each other, haha
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imin
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Feb 20 2013, 3:55pm
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Indeed!
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Brethil
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Feb 20 2013, 4:52pm
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I think you summed it up...
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swordwhale
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Feb 19 2013, 4:32am
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Yes the end is going to be devastating
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Ham_Sammy
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Feb 19 2013, 5:34am
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Personally...
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marillaraina
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Feb 19 2013, 8:41am
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I agree! (*spoilers* of course)
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Angharad73
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Feb 19 2013, 9:19am
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Yeah
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marillaraina
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Feb 19 2013, 10:06am
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Yep
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Angharad73
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Feb 19 2013, 10:39am
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LOL!
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Old Toby
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Feb 19 2013, 3:29pm
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Indeed
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Ham_Sammy
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Feb 19 2013, 3:46pm
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The tissue concession
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Brethil
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Feb 20 2013, 4:41am
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But surely "random" is the whole point, marillarania?
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ShireHorse
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Feb 19 2013, 5:08pm
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Is it really random, though?
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Angharad73
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Feb 19 2013, 5:59pm
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Fan wanking IMO
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marillaraina
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Feb 20 2013, 10:41pm
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Great thoughts, Brethil.
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Roheryn
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Feb 19 2013, 11:01am
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Thanks Ro!
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Brethil
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Feb 19 2013, 7:58pm
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:-) Musings...
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Roheryn
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Feb 19 2013, 11:12pm
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That is my view as well
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Ham_Sammy
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Feb 19 2013, 11:25pm
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One license
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Brethil
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Feb 20 2013, 12:44am
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Thorin's fate **spoilers**
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Old Toby
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Feb 20 2013, 5:10am
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Dain has to become king,no matter what.
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Thorins_apprentice
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Feb 19 2013, 7:05am
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Reading the book...
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Marionette
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Feb 19 2013, 10:11pm
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I think a lot of it depends on Billy Connolly's portrayal.
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Kimtc
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Feb 20 2013, 4:32am
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I've just begun to wonder
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ShireHorse
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Feb 20 2013, 1:28pm
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This is an excellent concept!
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Kimtc
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Feb 20 2013, 2:51pm
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That's a great idea!
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GloryBox
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Feb 20 2013, 6:19pm
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It would help (spoilers)
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Brethil
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Feb 20 2013, 8:34pm
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Dain as Rebuilder
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Ham_Sammy
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Feb 20 2013, 8:49pm
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Oh, fantastic idea!
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Roheryn
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Feb 20 2013, 11:30pm
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Oh I like this idea!
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Súlimë
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Feb 21 2013, 8:14am
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Interesting idea.
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Macfeast
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Feb 21 2013, 1:45pm
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Your "ride of the...
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GloryBox
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Feb 21 2013, 6:08pm
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Going by Dain's words in LOTR to the Witch King
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emre43
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Feb 20 2013, 2:21pm
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