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Felagund
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Feb 17 2013, 11:32am
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Gundabad, and "Of Dwarves & Men"
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PhantomS, you inspired me to go back and read one of my favourite essays by Tolkien, "Of Dwarves & Men" (HoMe XII). The economic and security expediency of the relationship between the Longbeard 'mansions' (Moria etc) and their non-Dwarven neighbours is neatly explored therein, starting in the Second Age. Dwarves provided the smithcraft and weapons, and others (especially Men) provide the foodstuffs in exchange – and together, they fought off Orcs and wild men from the East. Thinking beyond this essay for a moment, the First Age Dwarves of Nogrod and Belegost (Broadbeams and Firebeards) also traded with Caranthir of the Noldor, and Eöl of Nan Elmoth. The model was well-established and mutually beneficial, right down the era of Dale and The Shire. On Gundabad, the essay describes it as a place revered by the Dwarves because of Durin I’s awakening there, and as a place where, “in the early ages”, Dwarves of all clans "held assemblies of delegates”. Gundabad therefore seems to have been a pan-Khazâd site, of political, cultural and sacred significance. That Gundabad, which is described as a Khuzdul name, was situated approximately halfway between the western and eastern ‘awakening’ sites of the Fathers of the Seven Houses, also no doubt played a part in how Gundabad came to occupy this position. It is also implied that Gundabad changed hands several times in the Second and Third Ages, as Dwarves and Orcs fought their long wars. Putting all this together, I return to the point about Gundabad being too isolated, and the Longbeards being too weak in the wake of the War of the Dwarves and Orcs, for a re-colonisation of Gundabad to be realistic. With the geo-political changes brought about by the events described in The Hobbit, Gundabad would theoretically have become a more realistic reconquista project – the Beornings bring security to the Vales of Anduin and the High Pass (or at least more than there was previously – thus protecting the eastern flanks of any putative expedition), and the Orc population takes a hammering at the Battle of the Five Armies. However, whilst the Orcish occupation of Gundabad may have offended Dwarves far and wide, perhaps there simply wasn’t a sufficient economic incentive to risk a new takeover bid at that time. Gundabad is never mentioned as being a source of gems or precious metals. This may explain why Durin I himself decamped to Moria. Post-Battle of the Five Armies, the newly liberated Erebor was the natural focal point of Longbeard re-colonisation – it had friendly (ish) neighbours, and an abundance of wealth to be mined. Similarly, Balin heads to Moria, not Gundabad, when he strikes out on his own – mithril and other precious commodities are up for grabs, thus making the risk worthwhile. Despite its sacral significance, Gundabad essentially becomes a ‘nice to have’, rather than something Dwarves will risk all to possess. Anyway thanks for prompting me to re-read this essay!
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Dwarves' lost opportunity
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Mixel
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Feb 1 2013, 11:52pm
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Which war do you mean?
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Otaku-sempai
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Feb 2 2013, 9:00pm
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That's my guess too...
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noWizardme
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Feb 3 2013, 5:04pm
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I mean War of Dwarves and Orcs
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Mixel
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Feb 3 2013, 5:25pm
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Yeah, that did happen.
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Escapist
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Feb 3 2013, 5:31pm
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Much about the dwarves is unknown, I think.
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Escapist
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Feb 3 2013, 5:07pm
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The war was incredibly vicious
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PhantomS
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Feb 3 2013, 11:56pm
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Mount Gundabad
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Felagund
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Feb 7 2013, 1:34pm
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Good ol' Gundabad
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PhantomS
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Feb 7 2013, 3:30pm
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Gundabad, and "Of Dwarves & Men"
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Felagund
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Feb 17 2013, 11:32am
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That's very informative
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CuriousG
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Feb 17 2013, 2:34pm
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Something fishy about the whole Moria reconquest project?
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noWizardme
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Feb 20 2013, 10:10pm
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I'm never sure what to read into that either
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CuriousG
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Feb 20 2013, 10:42pm
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"Wormbeard" at work...
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noWizardme
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Feb 21 2013, 10:01pm
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Moria
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Cirashala
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Feb 25 2013, 11:13pm
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