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Magpie's just enjoying herself for The Hobbit

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Feb 15 2013, 5:54pm


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Magpie's just enjoying herself for The Hobbit [In reply to] Can't Post

... and not studying, tracking, or analyzing the score. :-)

I can provide some scant info in regards to LOTR.

It's heard three times in LOTR: in the halls of Dwarrowdelf and twice in Balin's tomb.

Adams said in the CR-FOTR liner notes that it "expresses the Dwarves' pride as well as their folly." (pg 19)

In referencing the book (Music of the LOTR Book - pg 58-59) we find:

... the theme is less coarse than other Dwarf music because Dwarrowdelf was the Dwarves' 'greatest accomplishment'... their 'loftiest aspirations'

...each "leap upwards" by the French horns "droops sadly down almost immediately, falling like the city itself"

...Shore contrasts the grandeur of Dwarrowdelf with its current (in FOTR) ruined state

... there is a contrast, in the music, of a "church mode" with a "somber mode"

...the theme is associated with scenes that are somber and sad


So... if you're looking for the theme in The Hobbit, I would be looking to see how Shore is taking music written for a once glorious, now ruined empire and applying it to themes or situations we find in The Hobbit. How is the music different? If we think we hear it in particular scenes, how do those scenes connect to the situation of Moria as seen in FOTR such that we can expand what the music is representing? Is the music in TH a precursor to the Dwarrowdelf music? Or can we imagine that the music heard in each movie represents developed themes drawn from some conceptually earlier Dwarven music. That is, C is not drawn from B so much as C and B are both drawn from A.

Remember, it's not so much a game of spotting easter eggs (found one!) but of seeing how the music serves the plot and helps support the concepts found in LOTR and the conceptual differences between LOTR and TH.

You can get a head start on what Doug will surely cover down the road at some point. (not soon, I'm betting)

:-)


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(This post was edited by Magpie on Feb 15 2013, 5:55pm)

Subject User Time
Hint of the Dwarrowdelf Dwarven theme in AUJ? The Grey Pilgrim Send a private message to The Grey Pilgrim Feb 15 2013, 3:42pm
    It's There IdrilofGondolin Send a private message to IdrilofGondolin Feb 15 2013, 3:55pm
        I hear it too Shagrat Send a private message to Shagrat Feb 15 2013, 4:18pm
    you're right. andwise Send a private message to andwise Feb 15 2013, 4:37pm
    Oh yes indeed! Tintallė Send a private message to Tintallė Feb 15 2013, 4:53pm
        Make that *Dwarrowdelf.* Sorry. Poor proofreading on my part! // Tintallė Send a private message to Tintallė Feb 15 2013, 5:24pm
    Oh yes, that Dwarrowdelf theme is awesome Old Toby Send a private message to Old Toby Feb 15 2013, 5:27pm
    Magpie's just enjoying herself for The Hobbit Magpie Send a private message to Magpie Feb 15 2013, 5:54pm
        You know, Magpie... Roheryn Send a private message to Roheryn Feb 16 2013, 5:42am
    Dwarven themes Lieutenant of Dol Guldur Send a private message to Lieutenant of Dol Guldur Feb 15 2013, 7:02pm
    A hint, if not more. L. Ron Halfelven Send a private message to L. Ron Halfelven Feb 15 2013, 7:50pm

 
 
 

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