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Saruman's Uruk-hai

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Feb 15 2013, 12:06am


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I know this is starting to stray from the original topic, but I believe the Uruk-hai "birthing" scenes in Isengard were there to explain how Saruman could raise up a thousands-strong army in a matter of days/weeks, rather than to deny the possibility of Orcs having families.

Also, it's been emphasized many time in the books that evil can't create, only corrupt. I don't much like the movies going against this so I'll put forward this possibility: maybe the "mud pits" were actually some mechanism used to twist existing creatures or make them age more quickly? Basically an evil incubator. Crazy

Even so, that's just for Saruman's Uruks so it's not relevant to the Azog/Bolg scenario either way. There must have been Orc-women in general and a Mrs Azog in particular (though I don't know if the movies will have anything to say about her... but now I almost kind of hope they do Laugh). All in all, I don't think it's any more unusual than there being female Wargs or spiders (hi, Shelob!) or any other baddie creature.

Anyway, this is an interesting topic so maybe I'll start another thread for it once I've had more time to organize my thoughts. Tongue

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Subject User Time
Big Bad Bolg (book spoilers & movie speculation) Lio Send a private message to Lio Feb 13 2013, 2:01am
    My, what big teeth you have! Roheryn Send a private message to Roheryn Feb 13 2013, 10:21am
        they will set up Dain in some way Valandil ed Imladris Send a private message to Valandil ed Imladris Feb 13 2013, 11:06am
        I do hope... *book spoilers* Angharad73 Send a private message to Angharad73 Feb 13 2013, 11:22am
            Many spoilers here. Re: who kills whom (?) Brethil Send a private message to Brethil Feb 13 2013, 6:13pm
        Dwarves and Orcs and Beorn and BoFA (more book spoilers!) Lio Send a private message to Lio Feb 14 2013, 3:58am
            Exactly! And yes more spoilers.... Brethil Send a private message to Brethil Feb 14 2013, 4:46pm
                Poor Thorin! And the Bolg/Azog connection (book spoilers continued!) Lio Send a private message to Lio Feb 14 2013, 11:38pm
                    Thank you! I didn't know that about the figures. Brethil Send a private message to Brethil Feb 15 2013, 2:54am
    No relationship nhui06 Send a private message to nhui06 Feb 13 2013, 3:34pm
        I would prefer it Glorfindela Send a private message to Glorfindela Feb 13 2013, 4:06pm
        This is close to my thinking Michelle Johnston Send a private message to Michelle Johnston Feb 13 2013, 10:21pm
            I hope they don't try to void it. Azog and Bolg are only unique in that their kinship is mentioned and specified, AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Feb 13 2013, 11:13pm
                The nonesense of growing orcs from the ground was exactly nonsense, whooeey that Peter made up to be more PG Lusitano Send a private message to Lusitano Feb 14 2013, 1:51am
                Filling In The Point Michelle Johnston Send a private message to Michelle Johnston Feb 14 2013, 7:41am
                    Saruman's Uruk-hai Lio Send a private message to Lio Feb 15 2013, 12:06am
                        Uruk Hai & more on Bolg Michelle Johnston Send a private message to Michelle Johnston Feb 15 2013, 11:03am
    Could it be possible... MEIGWIT Send a private message to MEIGWIT Feb 13 2013, 4:30pm
    Other thoughts IdrilofGondolin Send a private message to IdrilofGondolin Feb 14 2013, 1:08am

 
 
 

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