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'AUJ' avoids the whole issue...

Otaku-sempai
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Tolkien added these facts to the swords after the Hobbit and it's now a minor plot hole. There is just no way that Elrond would have let Thorin use his families weapon for this quest, at the very least without acknowledging how generous he is being by letting him do so.



The truth is that movie-Elrond isn't given a say in the matter since the company sneaks off without anyone but Gandalf being the wiser.

'There are older and fouler things than Orcs in the deep places of the world.' - Gandalf the Grey, The Fellowship of the Ring

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Elrond and Glamdring IdrilofGondolin Send a private message to IdrilofGondolin Feb 12 2013, 4:56pm
    From a practical POV... Angharad73 Send a private message to Angharad73 Feb 12 2013, 5:51pm
        Yes, it's due to the copyright Arandir Send a private message to Arandir Feb 12 2013, 6:38pm
            An amendment. Elrond's relation to Turgon is not off limits to the filmakers, as it can be drawn from The Appendices. AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Feb 13 2013, 10:08pm
        I think you are right. The White Wizard Send a private message to The White Wizard Feb 12 2013, 7:37pm
        Doubtful, Narsil is housed there stoutfiles Send a private message to stoutfiles Feb 12 2013, 7:56pm
            Narsil is different, though Angharad73 Send a private message to Angharad73 Feb 12 2013, 8:06pm
                But it's on display stoutfiles Send a private message to stoutfiles Feb 12 2013, 8:12pm
                    Swords are to be used Angharad73 Send a private message to Angharad73 Feb 12 2013, 8:26pm
                        Narsil has a future Aragalen the Green Send a private message to Aragalen the Green Feb 13 2013, 3:13am
                            There would also be, in Elrond the wise, a knowledge of Feanor, and of what being too attatched AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Feb 13 2013, 4:53am
                            Not seeing it stoutfiles Send a private message to stoutfiles Feb 13 2013, 2:01pm
                                Read the inscriptions Mahtion Send a private message to Mahtion Feb 13 2013, 2:52pm
                                    Perfectly stated, Mathion. And thank you AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Feb 13 2013, 10:11pm
                                Gandalf and Glamdring Angharad73 Send a private message to Angharad73 Feb 13 2013, 3:22pm
                                    Or the best answer stoutfiles Send a private message to stoutfiles Feb 13 2013, 4:37pm
                                        Clearly... Angharad73 Send a private message to Angharad73 Feb 13 2013, 4:46pm
                                        Just don't think he would be invested Brethil Send a private message to Brethil Feb 13 2013, 6:46pm
                                        I have to disagree./ AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Feb 13 2013, 10:21pm
                                        'AUJ' avoids the whole issue... Otaku-sempai Send a private message to Otaku-sempai Feb 14 2013, 1:31pm
                                            They had to leave at some point stoutfiles Send a private message to stoutfiles Feb 14 2013, 6:17pm
                                                Elrond knew this would be a powerful token of good will between Elves and Dwarves, AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Feb 15 2013, 11:01pm
        Agreed on both, though it seems that the Appendices would allow one to trace AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Feb 13 2013, 1:19am
    Not at all stoutfiles Send a private message to stoutfiles Feb 12 2013, 7:53pm
    Would have been a mistake if he did ElendilTheShort Send a private message to ElendilTheShort Feb 12 2013, 8:24pm
        How right you are IdrilofGondolin Send a private message to IdrilofGondolin Feb 12 2013, 10:49pm
    Lost for how many centuries/millenia? arithmancer Send a private message to arithmancer Feb 13 2013, 3:51pm
    I wonder cats16 Send a private message to cats16 Feb 13 2013, 3:58pm
    Honestly, I think it's more a case of Tintallė Send a private message to Tintallė Feb 14 2013, 2:41am
        book-Narsil and movie-Narsil Hun200kmh Send a private message to Hun200kmh Feb 15 2013, 8:27pm
            Well yes, there was no Narsil shrine in the book Tintallė Send a private message to Tintallė Feb 16 2013, 5:14am
    I just watched this clip on youtube... cats16 Send a private message to cats16 Feb 14 2013, 5:17am
        You can still hear Elrond in the background Tintallė Send a private message to Tintallė Feb 14 2013, 7:07am
        That is Brilliant IdrilofGondolin Send a private message to IdrilofGondolin Feb 14 2013, 9:24pm
            Gandalf knew all of the Elves, even if they did not always know him AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Feb 15 2013, 11:02pm
            Thanks! // cats16 Send a private message to cats16 Feb 16 2013, 4:41am

 
 
 

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