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AinurOlorin
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Feb 13 2013, 10:21pm
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Behaving in that way, especially considering how the dwarves came by those swords, would have only served to reinforce movie Thorin's distrust of Elves, and would also have made Elrond seem like a petty, obnoxious person and a poor host. It would have hearkened more to the manner of Thingol when he was away from the restraining and enlightening counsel of Melain, or of some of the sons of Feanor (behaviours influenced first by the taint of Melkor The Morgoth, whose lies and dark emotions infected them in their despite, though they hated him, and later influenced by the Doom lain by Mandos). Elrond was of entirely different temperment. Most of what he did he did with the well being of the wider world in mind, and he was very much like a steward, and his kinship to Melain, and his close friendship to Gandalf, as well as his own lore knowledge, almost certainly enhanced that aspect of his being. Narsil he kept, not as a vaunted treasure, but as an heirloom to be bequeathed to his far kin, the mortal kings of Arnor, if and when a time should come for them to reclaim their kingship. Vilya he kept for its safety and for the preservation of his realm. But nothing in his nature ever suggests a covetousness, nor the sort of greed and desire for baubles and troves that sometimes afflicted elves like Thranduil and Thingol, nor did he seem to suffer from the excess of pride that had afflicted the likes of Feanor and his sons, Thingol, and to some measure even Galadriel. There is just no way that Elrond would have let Thorin use his families weapon for this quest, at the very least without acknowledging how generous he is being by letting him do so.
"Hear me, hounds of Sauron, Gandalf is here! Fly if you value your foul skins, I will shrivel you from tail to snout if you step within this circle!"
"Do not be to eager to deal out death in judgement. Even the very wise cannot see all ends."
(This post was edited by AinurOlorin on Feb 13 2013, 10:24pm)
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Elrond and Glamdring
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IdrilofGondolin
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Feb 12 2013, 4:56pm
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From a practical POV...
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Angharad73
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Feb 12 2013, 5:51pm
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Yes, it's due to the copyright
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Arandir
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Feb 12 2013, 6:38pm
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An amendment. Elrond's relation to Turgon is not off limits to the filmakers, as it can be drawn from The Appendices.
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AinurOlorin
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Feb 13 2013, 10:08pm
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I think you are right.
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The White Wizard
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Feb 12 2013, 7:37pm
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Doubtful, Narsil is housed there
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stoutfiles
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Feb 12 2013, 7:56pm
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Narsil is different, though
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Angharad73
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Feb 12 2013, 8:06pm
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But it's on display
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stoutfiles
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Feb 12 2013, 8:12pm
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Swords are to be used
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Angharad73
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Feb 12 2013, 8:26pm
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Narsil has a future
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Aragalen the Green
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Feb 13 2013, 3:13am
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There would also be, in Elrond the wise, a knowledge of Feanor, and of what being too attatched
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AinurOlorin
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Feb 13 2013, 4:53am
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Not seeing it
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stoutfiles
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Feb 13 2013, 2:01pm
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Read the inscriptions
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Mahtion
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Feb 13 2013, 2:52pm
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Perfectly stated, Mathion. And thank you
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AinurOlorin
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Feb 13 2013, 10:11pm
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Gandalf and Glamdring
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Angharad73
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Feb 13 2013, 3:22pm
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Or the best answer
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stoutfiles
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Feb 13 2013, 4:37pm
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Clearly...
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Angharad73
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Feb 13 2013, 4:46pm
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Just don't think he would be invested
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Brethil
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Feb 13 2013, 6:46pm
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I have to disagree./
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AinurOlorin
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Feb 13 2013, 10:21pm
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'AUJ' avoids the whole issue...
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Otaku-sempai
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Feb 14 2013, 1:31pm
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They had to leave at some point
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stoutfiles
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Feb 14 2013, 6:17pm
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Elrond knew this would be a powerful token of good will between Elves and Dwarves,
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AinurOlorin
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Feb 15 2013, 11:01pm
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Agreed on both, though it seems that the Appendices would allow one to trace
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AinurOlorin
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Feb 13 2013, 1:19am
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Not at all
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stoutfiles
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Feb 12 2013, 7:53pm
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Would have been a mistake if he did
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ElendilTheShort
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Feb 12 2013, 8:24pm
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How right you are
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IdrilofGondolin
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Feb 12 2013, 10:49pm
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Lost for how many centuries/millenia?
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arithmancer
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Feb 13 2013, 3:51pm
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I wonder
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cats16
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Feb 13 2013, 3:58pm
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Honestly, I think it's more a case of
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Tintallė
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Feb 14 2013, 2:41am
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book-Narsil and movie-Narsil
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Hun200kmh
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Feb 15 2013, 8:27pm
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Well yes, there was no Narsil shrine in the book
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Tintallė
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Feb 16 2013, 5:14am
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I just watched this clip on youtube...
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cats16
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Feb 14 2013, 5:17am
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You can still hear Elrond in the background
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Tintallė
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Feb 14 2013, 7:07am
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That is Brilliant
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IdrilofGondolin
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Feb 14 2013, 9:24pm
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Gandalf knew all of the Elves, even if they did not always know him
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AinurOlorin
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Feb 15 2013, 11:02pm
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Thanks! //
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cats16
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Feb 16 2013, 4:41am
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