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Love and enchantment


Feb 13 2013, 8:13pm

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Love and enchantment [In reply to] Can't Post

Maybe its less enchantment and more of a higher use of the concept of Love. We know Tolkien adored his wife and wrote the Tale of Tinuviel using his feelings for her as abackdrop and inspiration (at least I swear I have read that). For Thingol and Melian it is two "people" who meet and fall deeply in love. Because of her power and race her being somehow puts him under enchantment along with her as well and they are simply caught in each other's presence for such a time and on such a level that it makes it impossible for either of them to do anything. Maybe I am grasping at straws here, but I have always read this part that way. Tolkien's language in the SIL is always on such a high level that I try to filter meaning based on that. he talks about love in the three biblical terms often, his most evident is in the Phileo, brotherly love theme. Of course we see the eros, in Gondolin with Maeglin and Idril, it is presented as a lustful entity in Tolkien. But with Thingol and Melian it is more akin to the agapesis, love, and yet also combined with Eros. While I respect Tolkiens work and writing, he just wasn't much for writing a love story, and I think this is just an attempt he makes here, maybe it is an attempt to build up for the Luthien's capacity to love a mortal man. It certainly gives some weight to beauty and love and all of those things. Then again, this could be part of his buioding up just how special Luthien is when she comes along and how blessed Beren is to have her love. Its a great way to tell the world how awesome the woman you love is, when you put her in your books as the child of two incredible races.

On languages, I have nothing but confusion. Language has never been my strong point and Tolkien is so far above my brain I usually just think wow those are pretty names and words.

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Subject User Time
Silmarillion Discussion: Of Thingol and Melian, #2 NZ Strider Send a private message to NZ Strider Feb 12 2013, 1:22am
    La Belle Dame Sans Chimichurri squire Send a private message to squire Feb 12 2013, 2:35am
        Perhaps Gov. Sanford demonstrated NZ Strider Send a private message to NZ Strider Feb 12 2013, 7:48am
            Whose enchantment is it anyway? noWizardme Send a private message to noWizardme Feb 12 2013, 6:00pm
    Is it just a "stock theme" though? FarFromHome Send a private message to FarFromHome Feb 13 2013, 4:31pm
    Love and enchantment elevorn Send a private message to elevorn Feb 13 2013, 8:13pm
    Feminine wiles CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG Feb 14 2013, 1:52am
    posting previous questions here now elevorn Send a private message to elevorn Feb 14 2013, 5:37pm
        Thingol's resume CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG Feb 15 2013, 1:29am
    Late answers sador Send a private message to sador Feb 17 2013, 3:25pm
    a few thoughts on several great comments telain Send a private message to telain Feb 20 2013, 11:51pm
        Hyperlink to next chapter noWizardme Send a private message to noWizardme Feb 21 2013, 10:21pm


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