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My, what big teeth you have!

Roheryn
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Feb 13 2013, 10:21am


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Bolg, I mean. Not you, Lio. Smile Actually, that line works better if he were a Warg. And since I'm about to confuse even myself...

Neat thoughts on this, and it's going to be interesting to see how this storyline plays out, particularly with regard to who-kills-whom and whether or not any killings are related to the son-seeks-vengeance-for-father (or grandfather) theme.

Azog and Thorin have been clearly set up as archenemies. I'm completely convinced (for now, at least!) that one of three things must and will happen: either Azog kills Thorin, Thorin kills Azog, or possibly both. When this happens is another story. No idea. Seems a bit late to happen in the Bo5A, but would be anticlimatic if it happens earlier.

So here's my further speculation: Thorin kills Azog at some point, and is thus revenged for Thror's slaying at Azanulbizar (I just love spelling that!). Bolg thus seeks revenge for his father's death, which ultimately leads to Bolg slaying Thorin in the Bo5A. Beorn joins the battle near the end as he should, and, enraged at Thorin's (impending, since he doesn't die immediately) death, slays Bolg. This, however, denies Dain the opportunity to heroically slay anybody of importance, so he heads back to the Iron Hills and Balin is crowned king. Okay, okay, wishful thinking on that last bit, but I think the rest is quite plausible.

I really do think that it's very important to the storyline of the movie that Azog and Bolg are father/son, and that it was Azog who slew Thorin's grandfather. PJ has to be setting this up for a good reason.

Subject User Time
Big Bad Bolg (book spoilers & movie speculation) Lio Send a private message to Lio Feb 13 2013, 2:01am
    My, what big teeth you have! Roheryn Send a private message to Roheryn Feb 13 2013, 10:21am
        they will set up Dain in some way Valandil ed Imladris Send a private message to Valandil ed Imladris Feb 13 2013, 11:06am
        I do hope... *book spoilers* Angharad73 Send a private message to Angharad73 Feb 13 2013, 11:22am
            Many spoilers here. Re: who kills whom (?) Brethil Send a private message to Brethil Feb 13 2013, 6:13pm
        Dwarves and Orcs and Beorn and BoFA (more book spoilers!) Lio Send a private message to Lio Feb 14 2013, 3:58am
            Exactly! And yes more spoilers.... Brethil Send a private message to Brethil Feb 14 2013, 4:46pm
                Poor Thorin! And the Bolg/Azog connection (book spoilers continued!) Lio Send a private message to Lio Feb 14 2013, 11:38pm
                    Thank you! I didn't know that about the figures. Brethil Send a private message to Brethil Feb 15 2013, 2:54am
    No relationship nhui06 Send a private message to nhui06 Feb 13 2013, 3:34pm
        I would prefer it Glorfindela Send a private message to Glorfindela Feb 13 2013, 4:06pm
        This is close to my thinking Michelle Johnston Send a private message to Michelle Johnston Feb 13 2013, 10:21pm
            I hope they don't try to void it. Azog and Bolg are only unique in that their kinship is mentioned and specified, AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Feb 13 2013, 11:13pm
                The nonesense of growing orcs from the ground was exactly nonsense, whooeey that Peter made up to be more PG Lusitano Send a private message to Lusitano Feb 14 2013, 1:51am
                Filling In The Point Michelle Johnston Send a private message to Michelle Johnston Feb 14 2013, 7:41am
                    Saruman's Uruk-hai Lio Send a private message to Lio Feb 15 2013, 12:06am
                        Uruk Hai & more on Bolg Michelle Johnston Send a private message to Michelle Johnston Feb 15 2013, 11:03am
    Could it be possible... MEIGWIT Send a private message to MEIGWIT Feb 13 2013, 4:30pm
    Other thoughts IdrilofGondolin Send a private message to IdrilofGondolin Feb 14 2013, 1:08am

 
 
 

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