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arithmancer
Grey Havens
Feb 7 2013, 8:15pm
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But for a viewer, it is a single movie, also.
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It would be fair to judge it on how well it works as such, as no one is required to go watch all 8 hours of PJs "The Hobbit"! Personally I am not convinced by the OP's point of view even in that regard. I thought what provided this movie with a sense of resolution (that is needed to make it work as a stand-alone) was where it took Bilbo and Thorin's relationship. And to me, Bilbo simply giving the speech about home, and Thorin smiling at him on the Carrock after an interlude of being chased up trees and rescued by Eagles, would not, I think, have done it. The importance of the scene in which Thorin battles Azog is that Bilbo *takes action* in it. Which is what forces Thorin to see he has been wrong. But certainly the OP saying that Azog does not matter to the Quest, is premature. We don't know what his role will be in the later movies. One possible direction this could all go is that not only has Gandalf (in the White Council scenes, and with reasoning PJ&Co lifted out of other places in the canon) seen what a threat Smaug could be, but also the Necromancer has seen how useful Smaug could be, and this is why he has set Azog to chase after the Company, to hinder their quest.
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Negative thread about the movie
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Mr. Arkenstone (isaac)
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Feb 7 2013, 6:09pm
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And I wanted to ad a possitive thing.
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Mr. Arkenstone (isaac)
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Feb 7 2013, 6:26pm
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perhaps
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elevorn
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Feb 7 2013, 6:36pm
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now that is a civilizated answer
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Mr. Arkenstone (isaac)
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Feb 7 2013, 6:56pm
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I think the movie was too long
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Ayiana
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Feb 7 2013, 6:54pm
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Agreed
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Lusitano
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Feb 7 2013, 9:53pm
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I'm very sorry
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sador
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Feb 7 2013, 7:43pm
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Disagree
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shadowdog
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Feb 7 2013, 7:56pm
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But for a viewer, it is a single movie, also.
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arithmancer
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Feb 7 2013, 8:15pm
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This has Always Been My Argument
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IdrilofGondolin
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Feb 8 2013, 1:07am
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Ditto
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Eowyn3
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Feb 8 2013, 1:29am
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Fellowship, two towers
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Lusitano
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Feb 8 2013, 1:31am
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Agreed again
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jtarkey
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Feb 8 2013, 6:42am
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Exactly
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Lusitano
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Feb 8 2013, 2:04pm
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Finally
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Lusitano
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Feb 7 2013, 9:03pm
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Hmm
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macfalk
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Feb 7 2013, 9:32pm
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Not that
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Lusitano
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Feb 7 2013, 9:51pm
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Hasty assumption?
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Macfeast
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Feb 7 2013, 9:53pm
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Well said Macfeast
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Lusitano
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Feb 7 2013, 10:06pm
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I disagree
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Rufus
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Feb 7 2013, 10:32pm
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Well
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Lusitano
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Feb 7 2013, 10:58pm
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We should agree to differ
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Rufus
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Feb 8 2013, 8:58am
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Really?
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Lusitano
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Feb 8 2013, 2:06pm
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I see a trend here
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Rostron2
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Feb 8 2013, 4:22pm
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I dont really wish he would have directed...
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jtarkey
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Feb 8 2013, 6:28pm
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Agreed Lusitano
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tolktolk
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Feb 7 2013, 10:55pm
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Those are, i think my main complaints Tolktok
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Lusitano
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Feb 7 2013, 11:06pm
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I agree with pretty much all of this
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jtarkey
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Feb 7 2013, 11:20pm
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He is basically absent in Rivendell (which looked totally over lit and fake) and you are never able to understand why he loves the place so much, or why he's even on the adventure in the first place. They didn't really delve into why Bilbo wants to be the
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Lusitano
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Feb 8 2013, 12:57am
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well
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elostirion74
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Feb 8 2013, 8:45pm
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i feel the exact same way
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Elenorflower
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Feb 10 2013, 11:06pm
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Okay, nice case as stated.
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Rostron2
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Feb 7 2013, 10:06pm
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I completely understand where you're coming from, and although I don't agree/share those opinions, I can understand...
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Xanaseb
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Feb 8 2013, 1:32am
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Xana
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Lusitano
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Feb 8 2013, 1:35am
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yeah I think you're right, I'm just stirring up trouble rofl. I do apologise ;). There's no backlash, I am simply overreacting hehehe
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Xanaseb
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Feb 8 2013, 2:13am
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Eh
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Lusitano
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Feb 8 2013, 2:34am
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I wouldn't call it backlash
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Elessar
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Feb 8 2013, 1:52am
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Thanks for posting
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Súlimë
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Feb 8 2013, 2:35am
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My only thought
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cats16
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Feb 8 2013, 4:55am
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This sums it up well in a fun way
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pettytyrant101
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Feb 8 2013, 3:24pm
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I wonder
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MouthofSauron
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Feb 9 2013, 12:43am
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Not entirely fair
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SirDennisC
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Feb 9 2013, 1:20am
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Do you think Gollum looked better in LotR?
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Kassandros
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Feb 9 2013, 1:35am
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Good point
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SirDennisC
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Feb 9 2013, 2:00am
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How about the wargs?
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Kassandros
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Feb 12 2013, 3:46pm
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Now now
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Elessar
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Feb 9 2013, 1:37am
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Peter Jackson is the best director for the job.End of story.
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Lusitano
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Feb 9 2013, 2:36am
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no because they think they can do better
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MouthofSauron
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Feb 9 2013, 4:52am
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Bad Reasoning
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JWPlatt
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Feb 9 2013, 4:57am
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It's called being human.
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Escapist
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Feb 9 2013, 5:03am
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Directors
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JWPlatt
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Feb 9 2013, 5:13am
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Gladly
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Escapist
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Feb 9 2013, 5:18am
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Not The Point
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JWPlatt
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Feb 9 2013, 6:21am
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The customer is always right
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imin
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Feb 9 2013, 11:42am
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I'd also like to note
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Escapist
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Feb 9 2013, 5:08am
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nope, its logical reasoning compared to....
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MouthofSauron
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Feb 9 2013, 8:09am
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The Converse
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JWPlatt
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Feb 9 2013, 5:11pm
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oh really?
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MouthofSauron
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Feb 9 2013, 7:48pm
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No
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JWPlatt
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Feb 9 2013, 7:52pm
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my point was not..
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MouthofSauron
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Feb 9 2013, 7:55pm
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Balance
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JWPlatt
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Feb 9 2013, 8:04pm
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Agreed
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Lusitano
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Feb 10 2013, 1:46am
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Well, that's an argument for criticizing AUJ if ever I've heard one...
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Roheryn
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Feb 10 2013, 10:39am
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You misunderstood
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Lusitano
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Feb 10 2013, 2:35pm
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That´s the point
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Mr. Arkenstone (isaac)
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Feb 10 2013, 3:27pm
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Plenty of director out there could have done a better job.
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Lusitano
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Feb 9 2013, 2:59pm
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"I could have a hobbit film without that stuff", -fine..
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MouthofSauron
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Feb 9 2013, 7:50pm
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Youre impossible to talk with
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Lusitano
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Feb 10 2013, 1:41am
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really??
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MouthofSauron
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Feb 10 2013, 2:12am
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At no point
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Lusitano
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Feb 10 2013, 3:34am
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Let's take a break
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entmaiden
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Feb 10 2013, 4:11am
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Fair enough
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Lusitano
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Feb 10 2013, 2:36pm
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Just because you've asked
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sador
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Feb 9 2013, 7:57pm
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the other thing is too
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MouthofSauron
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Feb 9 2013, 8:01pm
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This is largely a matter of taste.
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Escapist
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Feb 9 2013, 5:12am
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Replies, replies for many of you
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Mr. Arkenstone (isaac)
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Feb 10 2013, 3:26pm
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Bravo, isaac
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Altaira
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Feb 10 2013, 5:23pm
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Thanks to you
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Mr. Arkenstone (isaac)
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Feb 10 2013, 7:18pm
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Respect
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Elessar
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Feb 10 2013, 8:11pm
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Respect is due
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Lusitano
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Feb 10 2013, 8:18pm
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That sounds painful
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Elessar
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Feb 10 2013, 8:57pm
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Hi isaac!
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Lusitano
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Feb 10 2013, 8:16pm
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Nicely done!
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Aragalen the Green
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Feb 10 2013, 8:48pm
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hi isaac I feel the same way
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Elenorflower
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Feb 10 2013, 11:10pm
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Hi Elenor!
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Mr. Arkenstone (isaac)
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Feb 12 2013, 10:58am
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for me 'derivative' in TH
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Elenorflower
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Feb 12 2013, 6:48pm
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