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AinurOlorin
Half-elven
Feb 6 2013, 9:48pm
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I am an American. And blue fire still says magic to me.
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And to most Americans who ever saw a movie in the 80s. lol. Though it would look far better. Effects weren't so grand in those days. lol. But, fireworks and carnival is if the fire is mostly leaping sparks and popping noises. This would have been a blaze of pale blue light, very much like what happened in Goblin Town when he dislodges the boulder. I don't think anyone thought "fireworks" when that burst of blue fire erupted and split the stone. Did you? We aren't talking about blue sparklers here. The power of the moment and of Gandalf's involvement was lessened by taking the route they took. The fire's beginnings were far less impressive than they might have been. You can be glad or no, but the changes did no favour to the Wizard or his standing, nor did they make the scene more effective. You have to imagine blue flame, without the sparkless and whizzing sparks of a fireworks display. There is nothing comic or festive about an explosion of blue fire, any more than any other colour, save that it may be thought prettier. Some people find orange fire very pretty. Some people are pyrophiles. What of it? Nuclear explosions can have a blue white hue. Nothing festive about them. I cannot see where changing the colour of the fire would have changed the tension of the scene in any way. It merely would have been more clear that the fire was not your average, run of the mill, match left burning in a dry patch forest fire by any stretch. I think it would have looked like fireworks, or like a carnival. Maybe it's a cultural thing - to me, different color fire has a celebratory connotation. It doesn't say 'magical' to me, it says "Fourth of July" celebration (that's a U.S. holiday where people set off brightly colored fireworks in different colors). Which would have clashed completely with the tension and danger of the scene. So personally I'm glad they stayed with ordinary color flames. "Hear me, hounds of Sauron, Gandalf is here! Fly if you value your foul skins, I will shrivel you from tail to snout if you step within this circle!" "Do not be to eager to deal out death in judgement. Even the very wise cannot see all ends."
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Thrilled the Pinecones were included. . . but they could have been more impressively managed, and being true to the book would have made it so.
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AinurOlorin
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Feb 5 2013, 7:17am
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Really?
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Roheryn
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Feb 5 2013, 8:14am
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Would that have been bad?
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Ardamírë
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Feb 5 2013, 11:50am
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One of the things...
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Arannir
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Feb 5 2013, 12:28pm
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I think those things could have worked
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Ardamírë
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Feb 5 2013, 3:05pm
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Blue flame is commonly seen in everyday life. There are extremely large and hot Blue Stars. Any gas stove lights up more blue than anything.
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AinurOlorin
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Feb 5 2013, 10:21pm
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Fire
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Arannir
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Feb 6 2013, 8:20am
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You can get a green flame or other colours eg purple
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imin
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Feb 5 2013, 1:05pm
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Ah, I stand corrected.
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Ardamírë
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Feb 5 2013, 3:03pm
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No, actually, not necessarily.
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Roheryn
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Feb 5 2013, 8:23pm
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Ah, ok.
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Ardamírë
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Feb 5 2013, 10:43pm
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less is more
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swordwhale
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Feb 5 2013, 4:31pm
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I was never in the realism howling choir anyway. No mortal knows the fundemental nature of reality, and if I wanted a more everyday experience
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AinurOlorin
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Feb 5 2013, 10:15pm
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Now that you've mentioned it
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Súlimë
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Feb 5 2013, 1:27pm
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could not disagree more
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Lindele
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Feb 5 2013, 1:40pm
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Would have improved the scene
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stoutfiles
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Feb 5 2013, 2:54pm
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Yeah the angry hug is the cheesiest part
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imin
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Feb 5 2013, 3:01pm
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Well...
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Arannir
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Feb 5 2013, 5:38pm
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Thank you.
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AinurOlorin
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Feb 5 2013, 10:27pm
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A little color might hve been nice
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Rostron2
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Feb 5 2013, 6:08pm
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big mistake
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jimmyfenn
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Feb 6 2013, 11:29am
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LMAO "If it wasn't mentioned, we would have gotten it"
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AinurOlorin
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Feb 6 2013, 9:40pm
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I don't think different color fire would have looked 'magical'
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Loresilme
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Feb 6 2013, 4:43pm
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ooh
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jimmyfenn
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Feb 6 2013, 5:05pm
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I am an American. And blue fire still says magic to me.
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AinurOlorin
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Feb 6 2013, 9:48pm
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I loved the blue light in Goblin Town
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Loresilme
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Feb 6 2013, 11:32pm
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And that is why I stuck with blue. The Animated version (and even a videogame version of The Hobbit)
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AinurOlorin
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Feb 7 2013, 12:08am
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photoshop job
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jimmyfenn
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Feb 7 2013, 10:43am
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lol
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AinurOlorin
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Feb 7 2013, 4:25pm
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Gandalf didn't feel lessened
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Elessar
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Feb 7 2013, 4:34pm
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I am not saying it was baaaaad. And I am glad it was in at all, as I have said.
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AinurOlorin
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Feb 7 2013, 4:52pm
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Its all good
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Elessar
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Feb 7 2013, 5:40pm
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