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You might be wrong, and you might be right

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Feb 4 2013, 9:00am


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... I would say that Smaug dies at the end of DoS and the assault on Dol Guldur will be in TABA.

There has to be a climactic (for the second movie, not the trilogy) battle of a fight of some sort in DoS, so unless there are some insertions into the storyline, what other possible scenes are there? And putting Dol Guldur into TABA would make sense to me as it serves as a bridge towards LOTR.

Of course, I'm probably utterly wrong. I'm never good at guessing this sort of thing.Crazy
That's the fun of speculation at this pointCool.

The only thing is that if they do put Smaug's death at the end of the 2nd film (and it's totally plausible and not a bad ending), they have to have something in the movie to allow get people to come back and see the next one.

All of us fans know of course that there's still a good bit of story left to tell. But we can't fool ourselves into thinking that the average audience should be as knowledgeable. Heck, I remember when FOTR came out there were so many people complaining about how it "had no ending". These people didn't understand that there were supposed to be three parts to the story.

So, for the hobbit I think the best way to do this would be to introduce the idea that there will be a large battle taking place within DOS early on. So that people will know that smaug's death is not the end. Trust me, people will complain about this is it ends with smaug's death. They are going to think "well that's it, what more is there to tell with the dwarf storyline?"

I think the best thing to do though is to have Bilbo's interaction be the climax, or have (as mentioned earlier) Smaug attacking the dwarves after the interaction be the climax, or have a new climax kind of added in like with the dwarves being attacked by Azog again - although I'm sure a lot of book fans will dislike this.

This has always been the tricky part of adapting the hobbit into a film, whether it be 1,2, or 3 films. The main villain dies long before the end! I mean imagine if Sauron died long before the end of ROTK. How would that look in an adaptation? Oh... waitWink
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Subject User Time
Problems for DoS Hamfast of Gamwich Send a private message to Hamfast of Gamwich Feb 3 2013, 9:47pm
    Good point... Eye's on Guard Send a private message to Eye's on Guard Feb 3 2013, 10:05pm
    Critics can say (and think) what they like Radagast-Aiwendil Send a private message to Radagast-Aiwendil Feb 3 2013, 10:08pm
        It's just an opinion ... pulpfiction16 Send a private message to pulpfiction16 Feb 3 2013, 10:26pm
            I think... Hamfast of Gamwich Send a private message to Hamfast of Gamwich Feb 3 2013, 10:51pm
            No, No, No IdrilofGondolin Send a private message to IdrilofGondolin Feb 5 2013, 2:15am
                I would love to see a proper ending to DoS totoro Send a private message to totoro Feb 5 2013, 6:29am
    Intercutting, and Gandalf Ruxendil_Thoorg Send a private message to Ruxendil_Thoorg Feb 3 2013, 11:08pm
    There's definitely gonna be a Bilbo/Dwarves action setpiece sycorax82 Send a private message to sycorax82 Feb 4 2013, 3:16am
    Has it been confirmed that these both are in DoS? Ardamírë Send a private message to Ardamírë Feb 4 2013, 4:04am
        so let me understand MouthofSauron Send a private message to MouthofSauron Feb 4 2013, 5:57am
            These last 2 comments redgiraffe Send a private message to redgiraffe Feb 4 2013, 7:03am
            I would like to see... Ardamírë Send a private message to Ardamírë Feb 4 2013, 2:31pm
        If I had to hazard a guess... Angharad73 Send a private message to Angharad73 Feb 4 2013, 8:46am
            You might be wrong, and you might be right redgiraffe Send a private message to redgiraffe Feb 4 2013, 9:00am
            I'm sure they'll make up a climax Ardamírë Send a private message to Ardamírë Feb 4 2013, 2:44pm
            I was expecting the Dol Guldur and Smaug - Hanzkaz Feb 4 2013, 6:36pm
        I am still in favour of a third option... Arannir Send a private message to Arannir Feb 4 2013, 1:56pm
            If the rumors of... Ardamírë Send a private message to Ardamírë Feb 4 2013, 2:49pm
                For clarificiation... Arannir Send a private message to Arannir Feb 4 2013, 2:53pm
                    of course redgiraffe Send a private message to redgiraffe Feb 4 2013, 3:19pm
                    That's what hasn't made sense to me either Ardamírë Send a private message to Ardamírë Feb 4 2013, 3:20pm
            **SPOILERS** redgiraffe Send a private message to redgiraffe Feb 4 2013, 3:18pm
    A possible solution to your concern might be Michelle Johnston Send a private message to Michelle Johnston Feb 4 2013, 10:29am
    Hmm (spoilers) CathrineB Send a private message to CathrineB Feb 4 2013, 10:38am
    I'm wondering the same thing Súlimë Send a private message to Súlimë Feb 4 2013, 11:00am
    I don't think Smaug vs. Lake Town will be in DoS painjoiker Send a private message to painjoiker Feb 4 2013, 2:23pm
    General Problem Arannir Send a private message to Arannir Feb 4 2013, 4:17pm
        Smaug's death and Saruman's death Mrredbirdy Send a private message to Mrredbirdy Feb 4 2013, 5:31pm
            However,... Arannir Send a private message to Arannir Feb 4 2013, 5:50pm
    We are only guessing at where Dol Guldur will be in the film... Otaku-sempai Send a private message to Otaku-sempai Feb 4 2013, 9:19pm
        I actually think they might tie the two together Hamfast of Gamwich Send a private message to Hamfast of Gamwich Feb 4 2013, 10:39pm
            Well, we don't know that the White Council didn't request Thranduil's aid... Otaku-sempai Send a private message to Otaku-sempai Feb 4 2013, 10:45pm
    There's plenty for the dwarves to do Rostron2 Send a private message to Rostron2 Feb 5 2013, 6:51pm

 
 
 

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