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Oooh thoughts and more thoughts

Loresilme
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Feb 4 2013, 1:32am


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Went to the Lincoln 13 theater on Broadway in NYC where they have the largest true IMAX screen in the city. Despite numerous warnings, I still made the mistake of sitting too close. Really, you need to sit in the last 2 or 3 rows! Seriously! Of course, it was great anyway. Though it is supposed to be HFR but perhaps I am getting too used to it? It still looks blurry in panning shots. I see no difference at all anymore.
After my second viewing, I got so used to the HFR that I started to think they weren't actually showing us the HFR version, lol. It's amazing how quickly your eyes can adjust to it. Are you sure though that it was the HFR version? Where I am they only had 3D HFR - the IMAX version was 3D, but not HFR.

A few thoughts popped into my head:
-- Those ponies (horses) are the furriest horses I've ever seen! Are they a particular breed of horse? Or are they just all in their winter coats? Or did they glue hair onto them?
According to one of the vlogs - they're wearing fur suits! If I recall correctly, they chose those horses because they had great fur, and then discovered that particular breed sheds. So they had to make fur pony suits :-).

-- The orcs are riding those wargs with no tack. How they heck do they stay on? I did notice then grabbing the hair on the back of their necks but how do they control them? That fur is probably really slippery. I would fall off in a second!
Idk but wargs are pretty ferocious - maybe the first guy that tried to put tack on a warg ... was, er, the last guy that ever tried it, lol. So they just learned to ride bare back :-).

-- That fish that Dwalin eats at the beginning -- is that real? Did he really bite and chew the head of a real fish? At least it's cooked! I know people DO eat those kinds of things (apparently, my Norwegian grandfather liked to eat fish eyes -- eww!) but I wouldn't want to do more than one take of that shot if I were Graham McTavish.
That's a great question - I also had the same question about the stick bug that Gandalf pulls out of Radagast's mouth.

-- The trolls really are stupid. Didn't they notice when they grabbed the ponies that they had halters on and were tied to trees? Wouldn't that clue you in to the fact that the ponies' owners might be somewhere nearby?
Good point - it probably would have occurred to anyone, other than trolls!

-- Are we supposed to think that Azog believes that Thorin can understand the Black Speech? Does he? Why would he? Can Azog speak the Common Tongue? What good would it do to goad your enemy if he can't understand what you're saying? Am I asking enough questions?
I wonder about this too. I don't know if he was supposed to understand it, or if he just heard "Thorin garble garble Thrain", and that was enough for him to fill in the blanks.

-- Elijah really needed to shave again before he shot some of his scenes. A five o'clock shadow is visible in some of them. Not very hobbit-like.
Awww, oh I know, he really has become all grown up. I've looked at some of the FOTR shots since then and he looks soooooo young in them.

-- the whole Rhosgobel scene: the spiders are drawn to the house. Why? After the black stuff is drawn out of the hedgehog, the spiders leave. Are they drawn to the Dark Magic? After it is contained in the blue crystal, do they leave because they can't sense it anymore? This has puzzled me the last few viewings.
I thought the same as you - they were drawn to the dark magic and then left because they couldn't sense it anymore. Not that I particularly understand it either, but I had the same takeaway as you.

-- the first wide shot of Rivendell is, IMO, the worst (most obvious) matte painting of all the films so far. Maybe the giant IMAX screen made it even more obvious but it is SO fake looking. It looked so much better in FOTR.
I really love Rivendell, so I thought it looked beautiful, but I was also really caught up in watching Bilbo's face when he sees it for the first time :-)

-- those dwarves have to be the worst houseguests ever. Well, they did clean up Bag End very nicely but, in Rivendell, they are burning the furniture! That could be an heirloom from Gondolin!! I am horrified every time I see it.
That would be a great Middle Earth Conspiracy Theory! "What was the *real reason* the dwarves snuck out of Rivendell without telling anyone?" lol... like trying to sneak out of your hotel before the management discovers you've trashed your room.

-- Oin has to be the worst bird watcher on the planet. He called the thrush at the end a raven -- they are not even close to looking anything alike (other than both being birds). I hope we get to see a "real" raven in DoS.
I know, right? Aren't they even different colors?

That's it for now. I will have to bring a pad of paper with me next time (if there IS a next time) to take notes.
The only upside to going to the 2D version is, it's easier to take notes without those glasses :-).

P.S. I'm tied with you - 7 times. Hoping for a few more! Thanks for the fun post :-)!



Subject User Time
a few thoughts on my 7th viewing today. MistyMountain Send a private message to MistyMountain Feb 4 2013, 1:09am
    Oooh thoughts and more thoughts Loresilme Send a private message to Loresilme Feb 4 2013, 1:32am
    Good point on the black speech. And Thorin does seem to understand, which is strange. As to Rhosgobel, AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Feb 4 2013, 1:33am
    Great thoughts! Roheryn Send a private message to Roheryn Feb 4 2013, 1:48am
        Good observation Sślimė Send a private message to Sślimė Feb 4 2013, 5:10am
            Scheduling difficulties? Elizabeth Send a private message to Elizabeth Feb 4 2013, 8:09am
    -- the first wide shot of Rivendell is, IMO, the worst (most obvious) matte painting of all the films so far. Maybe the giant IMAX screen made it even more obvious but it is SO fake looking. It looked so much better in FOTR. Lusitano Send a private message to Lusitano Feb 4 2013, 1:49am
    The furry ponies morgul lord Send a private message to morgul lord Feb 4 2013, 2:04am
        So that's why the ponies looked so weird Starling Send a private message to Starling Feb 4 2013, 6:04am
            I agree, the ponies looked distractingly fake Nerwen Send a private message to Nerwen Feb 5 2013, 1:03am
    My 7th viewing today also! Eowyn3 Send a private message to Eowyn3 Feb 4 2013, 3:15am
        Sausage links! Aragalen the Green Send a private message to Aragalen the Green Feb 4 2013, 1:07pm
    I was just getting ready to post a revised list... grammaboodawg Send a private message to grammaboodawg Feb 4 2013, 5:12am
    Great post! Here are some of my thoughts/observations Old Toby Send a private message to Old Toby Feb 4 2013, 7:10am
    Some thoughts on your thoughts Roheryn Send a private message to Roheryn Feb 4 2013, 7:50am
        Lol! Starling Send a private message to Starling Feb 4 2013, 7:56am
        Icelandic horses irreality Send a private message to irreality Feb 4 2013, 7:24pm
    Just back from #5. New observations and some personal commentary. Silverlode Send a private message to Silverlode Feb 4 2013, 8:08am
        Celeborc! Bwahahahahaha!!!!!! Tintallė Send a private message to Tintallė Feb 4 2013, 8:32am
        "Tell me, where is Thorin? For I much desire to speak with him." Starling Send a private message to Starling Feb 4 2013, 8:45am
        Orcrist's hilts Tinne Send a private message to Tinne Feb 4 2013, 9:08am
            Really? Silverlode Send a private message to Silverlode Feb 4 2013, 10:40am
                Orcrist Tinne Send a private message to Tinne Feb 4 2013, 10:49am
                    It also says so in the WETA Art & Design book Angharad73 Send a private message to Angharad73 Feb 4 2013, 12:39pm
                    Awesome! grammaboodawg Send a private message to grammaboodawg Feb 4 2013, 3:31pm
                It's mentioned in Brian Sibley's 'TH: AUJ The Official Movie Guide' kiwifan Send a private message to kiwifan Feb 4 2013, 7:38pm
        If you happen to see it again - SirDennisC Send a private message to SirDennisC Feb 4 2013, 5:29pm
            I think we're going grammaboodawg Send a private message to grammaboodawg Feb 4 2013, 5:53pm
        Yes! Brandybuckled Send a private message to Brandybuckled Feb 4 2013, 7:33pm
    Love these! Some thoughts. . . Tintallė Send a private message to Tintallė Feb 4 2013, 8:25am
    I would expect Thorin to understand Black Speech stoutfiles Send a private message to stoutfiles Feb 4 2013, 11:45am
    That fish that Dwalin eats at the beginning -- is that real? grammaboodawg Send a private message to grammaboodawg Feb 4 2013, 6:05pm
        Funny, I am the opposite! arithmancer Send a private message to arithmancer Feb 4 2013, 6:49pm
    Oin The Prancing Pony Send a private message to The Prancing Pony Feb 4 2013, 7:50pm
        Unless that ear-trumpet normally also improves his eye-sight, Roheryn Send a private message to Roheryn Feb 4 2013, 10:37pm
            Maybe he is short-sighed The Prancing Pony Send a private message to The Prancing Pony Feb 4 2013, 11:28pm
    **I've Gathered Geeky List Info from this post :) THANKS ALL! // grammaboodawg Send a private message to grammaboodawg Feb 5 2013, 2:11am
        **Double checked :)** // grammaboodawg Send a private message to grammaboodawg Mar 18 2013, 6:59pm

 
 
 

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