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CuriousG
Half-elven
Feb 3 2013, 7:02pm
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Thanks for your replies, Telain, and yes, they certainly do measure up.
Aule would get my vote as someone who ought to be traipsing around Middle-earth along with the other two. Wouldn't he be concerned with mountains, hills, anything that's solid land that Melkor may have twisted? Wouldn't he be able to smash down the Misty Mountains after Melkor raised them to hinder Orome? Shouldn't he take long walks with Yavanna in foreign lands to keep the romance alive?
Re: constellations. So far we have 2 votes in favor of them being recognizable. I'm divided myself. I like looking at the Big Dipper and thinking, "Ha! Varda put that there to herald Melkor's doom," and in that context, it looks scary, scarier as a Sickle than a cup. But I don't like going down the road of comparing Tolkien's world to our own and figuring out which continent is Asia or Africa, etc, so maybe I just need to stop at the stars.
I should clarify that I meant the Two Trees of Valinor, not trees in general vs. stars. I consider the Two Trees to "outshine" (sorry) Varda's stars as the greatest work of the Valar because in themselves (born from song and giving light to a vast land) they are simply awesome, and the fate of the world is tied up with them.
It seems that the fundamental flaw of the Elves is sadness, and of Men it's pride and treachery (okay, that's two). You're right that if nothing was ever wrong, we'd have a happy photo of pretty people that would never change, one glance would be enough. That's probably why most of us can't figure out the seemingly flawless Vanyar, or why Ingwe qualifies as High King of the Elves, all of them, unless it's his near-perfection. In a way the Vanyar seem like wasted potential, and I'd like to know more about them. But that might be intentional on Tolkien's part since it puts some mystery in the story, the same way I wondered all through LOTR who had the other two of the Three Rings.
Mandos seems to speak and reveal the future when Manwe tells him to, and this seems a big enough matter for Manwe to want to know what the cryptic remark meant. Maybe it was cryptic enough that Manwe wasn't concerned by it, or maybe the Valar were so ecstatic to have the Elves come live with them that they weren't going to pay attention to "Debbie Downer," or maybe they were absent-minded in the same way they were in letting some of Melkor's minions escape them.
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The Silmarillion discussion: Of the Coming of the Elves
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CuriousG
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Feb 1 2013, 5:34am
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Brief comment from "Arda Reconstructed"
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CuriousG
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Feb 1 2013, 5:55am
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I'm enjoying seeing these brief comments from AR
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Voronwë_the_Faithful
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Feb 1 2013, 7:34pm
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As far as I remember, not exactly.
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sador
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Feb 12 2013, 9:33pm
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Some corrections
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Voronwë_the_Faithful
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Feb 13 2013, 2:41am
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Thank you!
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sador
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Feb 13 2013, 5:12pm
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Food for thought is good!
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Voronwë_the_Faithful
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Feb 13 2013, 7:00pm
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"It needed a week's answer, or none."
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sador
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Feb 15 2013, 2:04pm
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I'm always interested in what you have to say! //
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Voronwë_the_Faithful
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Feb 15 2013, 3:51pm
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birth and other questions fo Elves
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elevorn
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Feb 1 2013, 4:15pm
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>>Why do you think Melkor was nibbling around the edges of the Elves and kidnapping them a few at a time? Why not enslave them all at once? They weren't exactly a fighting force.
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Asger
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Feb 1 2013, 6:57pm
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Elves and the bad guy
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CuriousG
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Feb 3 2013, 6:31pm
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great post! I hope my answers measure up...
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telain
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Feb 2 2013, 8:34pm
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Doom and Deepness and Damned, sexy orcs
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noWizardme
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Feb 3 2013, 6:06pm
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Mandos and his secrets
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CuriousG
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Feb 3 2013, 9:12pm
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doomed by doom?
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telain
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Feb 5 2013, 4:32pm
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Valar and Elves
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CuriousG
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Feb 3 2013, 7:02pm
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Of Elves and Orcs--more info
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CuriousG
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Feb 3 2013, 7:56pm
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Answers at last
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sador
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Feb 11 2013, 12:16pm
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late thought about stars, and links to real Earth
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noWizardme
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Feb 11 2013, 2:35pm
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Oh, the next chapter disscussion HAS started...
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noWizardme
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Feb 11 2013, 2:38pm
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Middle-earth and Real-earth
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telain
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Feb 12 2013, 4:25pm
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Answers to answers
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CuriousG
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Feb 15 2013, 1:51am
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