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It is too serious

imin
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Feb 1 2013, 2:54pm


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But then the same could be said for Tolkien fandom in general, people have based their entire careers around it.

For me the idea that the movie could only harm the greater good if it spread disease or warfare is nonsense. Many things cause harm but not disease.

For myself i dont believe the film is harming the greater good though some people do. One of those is Christopher Tolkien, who stated as such when referring to the lord of the rings trilogy in Le Monde back in July.

He felt the movie had created a world which was detrimental - harming Tolkien's work/ Middle-earth and was becoming the sole source or the primary source for the vision of middle-earth when he wanted it to be the books which he felt gave a person a better understanding of what the world was really about.

It is about the collective populations image/understanding of the works.

For me i dont think it will do much harm. It will mean more people end up buying the books than would have and some of those may then like it so much as to go on and read Tolkien's other works.

One way i feel the films have harmed the Tolkien fandom is through the artwork. Prior to the films there was lots of artwork done by well known artists - which continues now. But also by amateurs and fans of the books. Due to it being a book, one could draw/paint etc ones own mental image - it seems now with the films there is an over dominance of film imagery in the art scene. This is to the detriment of the scene as it narrows its collective vision.

Overall though i agree, the books will always be there and be able to be read by anyone who wishes to pick them up.

Personally i think there will be more of a split between those who are fans of the movies and those who are fans of the books (irrespective of whether they watched the films or not). I am also kinda unsure why book fans feel threatened by the film (in the same way CT has) i mean their own personal vision of M-e will be the same and so why get bothered about it?

All i can come up with is those peeps feel the book is better and want the film only fans to experience something better or so that the general publics perception of M-e is based on the books imagery not the films - which again leads to the question - but why is that important that the public think of the books when thinking of M-e?

All far too serious for me, lol.

Subject User Time
The Jackson Quibble: Is the new Hobbit flick harming the greater good? imin Send a private message to imin Feb 1 2013, 12:59pm
    Good and bad stoutfiles Send a private message to stoutfiles Feb 1 2013, 1:34pm
    Anecdotal evidence arithmancer Send a private message to arithmancer Feb 1 2013, 1:41pm
        What do you think about the idea imin Send a private message to imin Feb 1 2013, 1:48pm
    Here's a link, Imin. ShireHorse Send a private message to ShireHorse Feb 1 2013, 1:46pm
        Thanks imin Send a private message to imin Feb 1 2013, 1:50pm
            Speaking of Oxford.... ShireHorse Send a private message to ShireHorse Feb 1 2013, 1:57pm
    I saw that.... dormouse Send a private message to dormouse Feb 1 2013, 1:59pm
        Not gonna bother now Elessar Send a private message to Elessar Feb 1 2013, 2:06pm
        Why would that be bizarre? imin Send a private message to imin Feb 1 2013, 2:11pm
            Bizarre? dormouse Send a private message to dormouse Feb 1 2013, 3:48pm
                They are getting that money anyway imin Send a private message to imin Feb 1 2013, 3:55pm
                    Fair enough dormouse Send a private message to dormouse Feb 1 2013, 3:56pm
        wel said dormouse! andwise Send a private message to andwise Feb 1 2013, 8:34pm
        Agreed. Dissapointing how, to whom, and from what perspective? I AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Feb 2 2013, 3:28am
        I had the same reaction to that opening line ... "let's be honest ... " ... Escapist Send a private message to Escapist Feb 3 2013, 4:59pm
    Aren't people taking these movies WAAAAY too seriously? bborchar Send a private message to bborchar Feb 1 2013, 2:14pm
        It is too serious imin Send a private message to imin Feb 1 2013, 2:54pm
            As far as CT is concerned... bborchar Send a private message to bborchar Feb 1 2013, 3:19pm
                It's called first world problems, lol imin Send a private message to imin Feb 1 2013, 3:35pm
                    Exactly first world problems :) bborchar Send a private message to bborchar Feb 1 2013, 3:53pm
                        You know what i think that is kinda what it is for me imin Send a private message to imin Feb 1 2013, 3:59pm
                            It does end eventually Elessar Send a private message to Elessar Feb 1 2013, 4:16pm
                                For me... bborchar Send a private message to bborchar Feb 1 2013, 4:40pm
                                    I understand that Elessar Send a private message to Elessar Feb 1 2013, 5:04pm
                                    Try the BBC Lusitano Send a private message to Lusitano Feb 1 2013, 5:42pm
                            Imin... Unlikely Bombadil Send a private message to Bombadil Feb 1 2013, 4:18pm
                                Cheers Bomby and Elessar :) imin Send a private message to imin Feb 1 2013, 4:44pm
                                    Cheers Elessar Send a private message to Elessar Feb 1 2013, 5:11pm
                    You know. . . you'd be surprised. AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Feb 2 2013, 3:57am
                        I have noticed the same. Escapist Send a private message to Escapist Feb 3 2013, 4:57pm
                very well put.. andwise Send a private message to andwise Feb 1 2013, 8:47pm
    We have our own Tolkien culture Rostron2 Send a private message to Rostron2 Feb 1 2013, 3:46pm
    I was quite puzzled Kristin Thompson Send a private message to Kristin Thompson Feb 1 2013, 4:28pm
        Solution? Bombadil Send a private message to Bombadil Feb 1 2013, 4:39pm
        I agree - geordie Send a private message to geordie Feb 2 2013, 10:41am
            Manuscripts do not a museum make Kristin Thompson Send a private message to Kristin Thompson Feb 2 2013, 3:13pm
                True dormouse Send a private message to dormouse Feb 2 2013, 3:55pm
                True enough - geordie Send a private message to geordie Feb 2 2013, 5:53pm
    Harm? *snorts* No... not at all Rostron2 Send a private message to Rostron2 Feb 1 2013, 6:52pm
    This article lost all credibility Lindele Send a private message to Lindele Feb 1 2013, 7:05pm
    To be frank Radagast-Aiwendil Send a private message to Radagast-Aiwendil Feb 1 2013, 7:18pm
    Adaption verses Re-imagining Michelle Johnston Send a private message to Michelle Johnston Feb 1 2013, 9:11pm
        Should we listen to Critics IdrilofGondolin Send a private message to IdrilofGondolin Feb 1 2013, 9:37pm
    How is this any different from what happened in the 1960s? Loresilme Send a private message to Loresilme Feb 1 2013, 9:53pm
        Things change hutch Send a private message to hutch Feb 2 2013, 2:45am
    I'm just going to repeat what others have said... Súlimë Send a private message to Súlimë Feb 2 2013, 4:44am
    I bought a friend the Children of Hurin for their birthday because they liked AUJ. Escapist Send a private message to Escapist Feb 3 2013, 5:04pm

 
 
 

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