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Thank you! And I absolutely agree with your comment about that fading and loss

AinurOlorin
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Jan 31 2013, 11:57pm


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being a central theme of LOTR. I really wish Peter had followed Bakshi's example in the one respect of including Galadriel's lines to Frodo about The Three, The One and the Elves. In the live action Fellowship, she never really explains the "footstep of doom" comment, and the book, and the old animated give a wonderfully and woundingly powerful understanding.

I know what you mean about the fence straddling. I wouldn't count on it ending, since The Necromancer and Council will feature heavily, but it could still work very well, if it is handled correctly.

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I've been thinking about this for a while, and I completely agree with what you said, especially how LotR is dominated by a 'growing feel of the world of Men'. I think that's what the LotR books were all about -- a sense of fading 'magic', and I think the movies nailed it perfectly.

The Hobbit is something very different. You said it perfectly: 'a cozy, more familiar sense of childlike wonder'. Personally, I only want a vague connection with LotR, since if we keep true to the spirit of the books, The Hobbit offers a totally different tone and feel. I think AUJ tries a little too much to tie it to LotR (Frodo is totally unnecessary!), but I hope that is just because it wants to establish itself in the same universe first (for non-book-readers), before departing into its own version of Middle Earth in the later two movies.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that I want The Hobbit movies to be what The Hobbit book is to The Lord of the Rings books -- something different, that is just set in the same universe. Smile


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Why, to my mind, An Unexpected Journey greatly adds to rather than detracts from LOTR's fim legacy. AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Jan 30 2013, 2:04am
    We are on the same highway again Elessar Send a private message to Elessar Jan 30 2013, 2:29am
        Absolutely. AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Jan 30 2013, 2:54am
            Always a chance Elessar Send a private message to Elessar Jan 30 2013, 3:32am
    what do you hate about the dwarf histroy? lurtz2010 Send a private message to lurtz2010 Jan 30 2013, 5:59am
        Thror getting killed before the main battle is essential to understanding the war and the dwarves. AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Jan 30 2013, 6:20am
    Thanks for you post LordMaximus Send a private message to LordMaximus Jan 30 2013, 6:24am
        Agreed. AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Jan 30 2013, 6:31am
            Pace and import Brethil Send a private message to Brethil Jan 30 2013, 12:39pm
            You do that for sure Elessar Send a private message to Elessar Jan 30 2013, 8:10pm
    to the op redgiraffe Send a private message to redgiraffe Jan 30 2013, 12:45pm
        *warm smile and blush* AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Jan 30 2013, 7:05pm
    It was setup to fail, though stoutfiles Send a private message to stoutfiles Jan 30 2013, 1:17pm
        Are you insinuating Lindele Send a private message to Lindele Jan 30 2013, 3:53pm
            The prologue invoked LOTR stoutfiles Send a private message to stoutfiles Jan 30 2013, 8:16pm
        The tone of the prologue for AUJ is mixed, like the movie. And it does not go AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Jan 30 2013, 7:22pm
            I found the tone Arandiel Send a private message to Arandiel Jan 31 2013, 6:02am
                Almost exactly. Point well made. Indeed, Galadriel tells us definitively that something HAS been lost AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Jan 31 2013, 11:32pm
    The films Rostron2 Send a private message to Rostron2 Jan 30 2013, 4:14pm
    Appreciate the thoughtful post Loresilme Send a private message to Loresilme Jan 30 2013, 5:43pm
        Aww. Thank you, as well. AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Jan 30 2013, 7:52pm
    Great post! Súlimë Send a private message to Súlimë Jan 31 2013, 7:36am
        Thank you! And I absolutely agree with your comment about that fading and loss AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Jan 31 2013, 11:57pm
            Thanks for a heartful posting Brethil Send a private message to Brethil Feb 1 2013, 12:58am
                I am glad you did. AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Feb 1 2013, 1:49am
    Thank you for this lovely post! elostirion74 Send a private message to elostirion74 Jan 31 2013, 4:31pm
        ;) AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Feb 1 2013, 1:49am
    Agreed Escapist Send a private message to Escapist Feb 1 2013, 1:09am
        This is very true. AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Feb 1 2013, 1:53am

 
 
 

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