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Loresilme
Valinor
Jan 30 2013, 3:34pm
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I liked it too, but also wanted to share
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It sounded to me like the phrasing was purposely chosen by the scriptwriters so as to recall the words from the book: "I would take back my words and deeds at the Gate." -- (The Hobbit, Chapter 18) The phrasing of "Did I not say..." and then repeating all of his words and then saying he was completely wrong about all of them, is in essence saying, "I would take back my words." For me, I thought the way this scene was done was in keeping with Thorin's character, and very moving - words, hug and all. Thanks for posting this topic, Súlimë, even if we might not agree on it :-). It is good to have another chance for people to share their thoughts on this very important scene.
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"Arson, Murder and Life-saving" -- Thorin's cliched speech
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Súlimë
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Jan 30 2013, 10:11am
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I do not see a need to repeat this topic now.
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Kangi Ska
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Jan 30 2013, 10:41am
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Sorry...
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Súlimë
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Jan 30 2013, 10:46am
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It is not a repeat.
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dernwyn
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Jan 30 2013, 11:17am
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Thank you
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Súlimë
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Jan 31 2013, 3:30am
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I don't agree, I think it's a separate topic and
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Loresilme
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Jan 30 2013, 2:56pm
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I agree with your thoughts...
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jtarkey
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Jan 30 2013, 10:46am
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Aww I just replied to the "Never been so wrong" thread :)
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Yva
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Jan 30 2013, 11:34am
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Whenever it was added...
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bborchar
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Jan 30 2013, 12:38pm
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I don't wish to derail the thread too much
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Yva
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Jan 30 2013, 2:12pm
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Scene is integral to the script
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arithmancer
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Jan 30 2013, 1:42pm
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I guess you're right
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Yva
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Jan 30 2013, 2:37pm
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If anything...
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bborchar
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Jan 30 2013, 3:01pm
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I was rather referring
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Yva
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Jan 30 2013, 3:27pm
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Bilbo's choice
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arithmancer
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Jan 30 2013, 3:57pm
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he's supposed to gain that trust
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aarondirebear
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Feb 12 2013, 8:45pm
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I think it was planned
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Súlimë
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Jan 30 2013, 2:02pm
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If I remember RAs comment
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Esmeralda
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Jan 30 2013, 2:17pm
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RA is more than capable of much more subtlety
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Kangi Ska
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Jan 30 2013, 10:04pm
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"Thorin is the negation of subtlety"
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Yva
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Jan 30 2013, 11:40pm
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I would clarify?
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Kangi Ska
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Jan 31 2013, 2:08am
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Like a Captain
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glor
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Jan 31 2013, 2:42am
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There are those who hug
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Kangi Ska
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Jan 31 2013, 2:54am
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Effortlessly being Thorin.
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Roheryn
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Jan 31 2013, 7:55am
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yes, RA was Thorin
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Old Toby
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Jan 31 2013, 3:44pm
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Not so good
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stoutfiles
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Jan 30 2013, 1:14pm
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Awww
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Súlimë
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Jan 30 2013, 2:08pm
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The right thing
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Gelir
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Jan 31 2013, 1:39am
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I agree with you about Bilbo and the Arkenstone...
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bborchar
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Jan 31 2013, 2:12am
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Speech validity
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Brethil
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Jan 30 2013, 1:18pm
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Good point!
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Súlimë
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Jan 30 2013, 2:17pm
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This is a good point...
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bborchar
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Jan 30 2013, 2:28pm
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Thanks!
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Brethil
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Jan 30 2013, 8:14pm
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Thanks to O.P.
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Brethil
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Jan 30 2013, 8:30pm
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That rates a "mod-up"!
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Kangi Ska
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Jan 30 2013, 10:22pm
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Much appreciated Kangi Ska
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Brethil
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Jan 31 2013, 12:52am
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Great post!
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Gelir
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Jan 31 2013, 1:22am
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useful insights!
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swordwhale
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Jan 31 2013, 7:04am
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Loved the scene, especially Thorin's speech.
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arithmancer
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Jan 30 2013, 1:25pm
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Awww
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Súlimë
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Jan 31 2013, 7:43am
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I should never have replied to the post in the other thread, haha
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imin
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Jan 30 2013, 2:54pm
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It actually fooled me.
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hutch
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Jan 30 2013, 9:09pm
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I liked it too, but also wanted to share
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Loresilme
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Jan 30 2013, 3:34pm
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That's interesting!
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Súlimë
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Jan 31 2013, 4:16am
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Too soon perhaps?
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CathrineB
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Jan 30 2013, 3:34pm
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Maybe... but...
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Súlimë
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Jan 31 2013, 7:51am
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Grumpy is OK
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arithmancer
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Jan 31 2013, 2:02pm
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My bad
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Súlimë
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Feb 1 2013, 8:12am
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Move on this topic has been beat to death
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Rostron2
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Jan 30 2013, 3:39pm
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We don't manage our discussions that way.
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entmaiden
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Jan 30 2013, 7:36pm
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Understood //
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Rostron2
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Jan 30 2013, 10:29pm
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2D and 3D
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mefansmum
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Jan 30 2013, 4:09pm
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Did you view it first in 3D HFR? //
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imin
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Jan 30 2013, 4:22pm
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That's interesting
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Súlimë
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Jan 31 2013, 7:50am
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I took this speech as
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Arandiel
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Jan 31 2013, 5:42am
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I think
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Súlimë
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Jan 31 2013, 7:56am
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I'm not sure...
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Roheryn
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Jan 31 2013, 9:56am
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My impression of Thorin is similar,
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Arandiel
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Jan 31 2013, 7:59pm
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You're probably right
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Súlimë
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Feb 1 2013, 7:56am
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Wasn't in the book
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aarondirebear
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Feb 12 2013, 8:42pm
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