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"she claims to want to save Downton, but doesn't seem to want to do anything practical about it."

Yes... it's all about appearances and protocol and tradition. She seems her father's daughter in that: if they all look as if they're all together, that will be enough. To *work* at being a successful manor (or whatever it is) or successful family is beneath them.

Matthew touched on this when he talked about being 'working class.' I think these can be interesting story lines if the writer(s) give us a better sense of motivation. Help us understand why Robert is neglecting the property. Help us understand why Mary is so invested in Matthew not rocking the boat.

For that matter, help us understand why Mary would mostly rebuff Edith on Sybil's death bed. I mean, even those of us with serious family issues can find ourselves wishing and hoping we could repair them at extreme, meaningful moments like this. And I know that Mary and Edith have history. But the way the story has played out, they haven't maintained this highly charged dislike or anger or resentment towards each other. Can Mary not have one moment when she would wish their relationship could be better?

I just don't ever feel like I truly understand why some (many?) characters behave the way they do. I'm from a different time, a different country, and a different class from the characters in Austen's stories but I always feel like I understand what drives them (or the primary characters, anyhow)... what they feel... what they think limits them... what they want or hope for.

Although I get glimpses of this for some characters in DA, I don't get it for many. And I NEED that to understand some of the plot lines that are challenging credulity for me. I mean, maybe it makes perfect sense to some people (I'm looking at you, Julian Alexander Kitchener-Fellowes, Baron Fellowes of West Stafford DL)... but it doesn't to me. Get me behind the facade that the aristocracy shows to the world and help me understand their motivations.

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What movies did you watch this weekend? deej Send a private message to deej Jan 28, 2:37pm
    well... how about last night's episode of Downton Abbey **SPOILERS** Magpie Send a private message to Magpie Jan 28, 3:43pm
        Yes, how about it! Alassėa Eruvande Send a private message to Alassėa Eruvande Jan 28, 4:31pm
            Mary... Magpie Send a private message to Magpie Jan 28, 4:55pm
                Middle Class Alassėa Eruvande Send a private message to Alassėa Eruvande Jan 28, 5:07pm
                Something about Mary CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG Jan 28, 11:33pm
                    I'm actually a big fan of Mary ... Patty Send a private message to Patty Jan 29, 12:20am
            AE, Have you seen any more of Downton season three then just what was on last night? Patty Send a private message to Patty Jan 28, 6:52pm
                I've seen the first three episodes Alassėa Eruvande Send a private message to Alassėa Eruvande Jan 28, 7:40pm
            You know that the guard and another prisoner, Craig I think his name was Patty Send a private message to Patty Jan 28, 7:10pm
                I didn't catch that and don't have sound to blame Magpie Send a private message to Magpie Jan 28, 7:13pm
                    Another bit of illogical plot lines by Mr. Fellows I guess. Patty Send a private message to Patty Jan 28, 7:27pm
                I never could figure out Alassėa Eruvande Send a private message to Alassėa Eruvande Jan 28, 7:43pm
                    I imagine that's just what they used to pack the stuff in. Patty Send a private message to Patty Jan 28, 8:16pm
        Bates Rostron2 Send a private message to Rostron2 Jan 28, 6:44pm
        Dr. Clarkson would choose this time Patty Send a private message to Patty Jan 28, 6:53pm
        Bates's story is unsatisfying, but Patty Send a private message to Patty Jan 28, 7:03pm
            did you mean to say.... Magpie Send a private message to Magpie Jan 28, 7:10pm
                Oh sorry, I didn't mean to say believable. Patty Send a private message to Patty Jan 28, 7:12pm
                    still confused Magpie Send a private message to Magpie Jan 28, 7:15pm
                        Aha! I really need to accept techno-defeat and get off the iPad and back on the computer... Patty Send a private message to Patty Jan 28, 7:24pm
                            Do you have a physical, attachabel keypad? CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG Jan 28, 11:22pm
                                I do, actually... Patty Send a private message to Patty Jan 29, 12:09am
        Ah, good---I'm glad y'all are discussing this *more spoilers* Lily Fairbairn Send a private message to Lily Fairbairn Jan 28, 10:37pm
            Is there anybody that didn't know what was going to happen last night? Patty Send a private message to Patty Jan 29, 12:23am
                not sure Magpie Send a private message to Magpie Jan 29, 12:28am
                    Memorable scene related to *spoiler* CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG Jan 29, 1:06am
                        Spoiler in your subject line! // Aunt Dora Baggins Send a private message to Aunt Dora Baggins Jan 29, 1:08am
                            Oops! Sorry, but I thought anyone watching the show would know that already./ CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG Jan 29, 1:24am
                                The show screens in different months in different countries, Ataahua Send a private message to Ataahua Jan 29, 5:45am
                                    And some people record to watch later in the week // Magpie Send a private message to Magpie Jan 29, 2:37pm
                                        You mean some fans can actually WAIT?!! Not this one. lol/ CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG Jan 30, 1:59am
                                            Obviously I couldn't wait Patty Send a private message to Patty Jan 30, 5:05pm
                            It's not on until tonight on at least one of our local channels. // Aunt Dora Baggins Send a private message to Aunt Dora Baggins Jan 29, 1:26am
                            I fixed it // entmaiden Send a private message to entmaiden Jan 29, 2:56am
                                Thanks. Aunt Dora Baggins Send a private message to Aunt Dora Baggins Jan 29, 12:50pm
                        You are right. That scene with Maggie Patty Send a private message to Patty Jan 29, 2:19am
                        yes... I noticed it Magpie Send a private message to Magpie Jan 29, 4:06am
                        Yes! Alassėa Eruvande Send a private message to Alassėa Eruvande Jan 29, 2:15pm
                            Jessica Brown Findlay... Patty Send a private message to Patty Jan 30, 12:59am
                                ooh Annael Send a private message to Annael Jan 31, 4:28pm
                                    Whoops. I just saw that someone else got the role.... Patty Send a private message to Patty Feb 2, 5:32am
                        Yes! Annael Send a private message to Annael Jan 31, 4:23pm
                I didn't. Aunt Dora Baggins Send a private message to Aunt Dora Baggins Jan 29, 12:52pm
    Mama and Darker than Black SirDennisC Send a private message to SirDennisC Jan 28, 6:19pm
        how are you watching the anime series? Magpie Send a private message to Magpie Jan 28, 7:02pm
            Netflix SirDennisC Send a private message to SirDennisC Jan 28, 7:51pm
                I'll take a look and see what Amazon has // Magpie Send a private message to Magpie Jan 28, 8:05pm
        * "...add that it has a European (Spanish) sensibility..." d'oh // SirDennisC Send a private message to SirDennisC Jan 28, 8:02pm
    Watched "Super 8" CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG Jan 28, 11:19pm
    Legend Hamfast Send a private message to Hamfast Jan 28, 11:58pm
        The unicorns are memorable CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG Jan 29, 12:02am
    Almost finished the Battlestar Galactica (remake) series!! Laerasėa Send a private message to Laerasėa Jan 29, 12:08am
    Purchased 'Batman: The Dark Knight Returns, Part 2' today... Otaku-sempai Send a private message to Otaku-sempai Jan 29, 11:04pm
    Watched "Burke and Hare" with our own Andy Serkis Kimtc Send a private message to Kimtc Jan 29, 11:52pm
    Season 5 Breaking Bad, True Blood season 5 and Wonders of Life BBC imin Send a private message to imin Jan 30, 2:45am
    Total Recall (the remake) and The Five-Year Engagement Annael Send a private message to Annael Jan 31, 3:55pm

 
 
 

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