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Pretty ambivalent, I think.

Lightice
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Jan 26 2013, 1:10pm


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I am more inclined to think that the scene in question will be PJ's interpretation of the brief line in the book's unexpected party: "Even I, Gandalf, only just escaped." -- we have seen a mention of a badly injured Gandalf being rescued by Galadriel (and possibly also Radagast), and I have a strong suspicion that this will relate to him snooping in Dol Guldur on his own and getting caught.


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and C.Lee mentions he's in DOS : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZQeMSzsE8s


This, too, can be interpreted in multiple ways. It may simply mean that he hasn't shot all the scenes, yet, or that he is not fully familiar with the rearrangement of the scenes he has shot with the turn into a trilogy.

In a nutshell, I wouldn't call either of these conclusive evidence to any direction. My speculations are simply based on what I consider to be good pacing and proper threat escalation befit for a fantasy epic. It is ofcourse possible that in PJ's version the Necromancer will be driven from Dol Guldur relatively early on, but will remanifest to drive orcs into war in the Bo5A, but I still feel it would be very rushed to include Gandalf's investigation, the second meeting of the Council and their assault on Dol Guldur all in the same film.

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A point about the White Council attacking Dol Guldur kbdiggity Send a private message to kbdiggity Jan 25 2013, 8:02pm
    Knowing PJ, I imagine the timing of the assualt on Dol Guldur will not at all be influenced by the book's timeline. Kassandros Send a private message to Kassandros Jan 25 2013, 8:06pm
    Considering that even the time when the Necromancer established himself in Mirkwood is changed... Lightice Send a private message to Lightice Jan 25 2013, 8:25pm
    It's going to be a balancing act of action and exposition Rostron2 Send a private message to Rostron2 Jan 25 2013, 8:29pm
    Silvester McCoy confirmed that Arandir Send a private message to Arandir Jan 26 2013, 9:12am
        And PJ himself... Arannir Send a private message to Arannir Jan 26 2013, 9:16am
        But which "attack"? Lightice Send a private message to Lightice Jan 26 2013, 10:59am
            Christopher Lee said in his Christmas messge last year emre43 Send a private message to emre43 Jan 26 2013, 11:12am
                Source, please. Lightice Send a private message to Lightice Jan 26 2013, 11:56am
                    Some hints from P.Jackson and C.Lee Vangalad Send a private message to Vangalad Jan 26 2013, 12:21pm
                        Pretty ambivalent, I think. Lightice Send a private message to Lightice Jan 26 2013, 1:10pm
                            Me too Vangalad Send a private message to Vangalad Jan 26 2013, 1:23pm
                            I am inclined to agree. There is a LOT to cover as it is. AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Jan 26 2013, 7:59pm
                    Comparing to TTT Arannir Send a private message to Arannir Jan 26 2013, 1:24pm
                        Many reasons. Lightice Send a private message to Lightice Jan 26 2013, 2:15pm
                            Hmmm... Arannir Send a private message to Arannir Jan 26 2013, 2:29pm
                            PJ has also confirmed that Smaug will be in both Films 2 and 3 // Arandir Send a private message to Arandir Jan 26 2013, 4:16pm
                                Source. Now Lightice Send a private message to Lightice Jan 26 2013, 4:51pm
                                    Source? Same as McCoy's ... Arandir Send a private message to Arandir Jan 26 2013, 5:57pm
                                        I did, in December. Lightice Send a private message to Lightice Jan 26 2013, 6:02pm
                                            Okay ... Arandir Send a private message to Arandir Jan 26 2013, 6:14pm
                                                First doesn't really say anything on the subject, and as for the second... Lightice Send a private message to Lightice Jan 26 2013, 6:26pm
                                                    Quote Arandir Send a private message to Arandir Jan 26 2013, 6:28pm
                                                        I can see the possibility of starting with a flashback... Lightice Send a private message to Lightice Jan 26 2013, 7:34pm
                                                            I think *spoilers* Arandir Send a private message to Arandir Jan 26 2013, 7:50pm
                                                                You are missing the point of The Hobbit, I think Lightice Send a private message to Lightice Jan 26 2013, 8:24pm
                                                                    How to spread Smaug across two films.... arithmancer Send a private message to arithmancer Jan 27 2013, 4:58am
                                                                        Basically, you are giving the exact reasons why I find the Smaug-prologue a terrible idea. Lightice Send a private message to Lightice Jan 27 2013, 12:21pm
                                                                            DoS arithmancer Send a private message to arithmancer Jan 27 2013, 3:31pm
                                                                                Adding more problems does not make good solutions. Lightice Send a private message to Lightice Jan 27 2013, 4:39pm
                                                                    I am inclined to agree on the overwhelming majority of this. AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Jan 27 2013, 8:43am
                                    Well, I guess from now on we... Arannir Send a private message to Arannir Jan 26 2013, 9:13pm
                                I like the idea Súlimë Send a private message to Súlimë Jan 26 2013, 4:58pm
                        This all day: Boromir Stark Send a private message to Boromir Stark Jan 26 2013, 10:52pm
                    Sure emre43 Send a private message to emre43 Jan 26 2013, 2:02pm
    I'm really glad that they are doing this whole White Council sub-plot emre43 Send a private message to emre43 Jan 26 2013, 6:22pm
        I agree Arandir Send a private message to Arandir Jan 26 2013, 6:23pm
            Yeah definitely emre43 Send a private message to emre43 Jan 26 2013, 10:04pm
                Agreed, though there was a cameo Glorfindel in LOTRs AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Jan 27 2013, 10:50pm
        Huge agreement on the dissapointment. Especially about Glorfindel and Cirdan. AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Jan 27 2013, 10:43pm
    Gandalf in DOS The Mitch King Send a private message to The Mitch King Jan 26 2013, 7:14pm

 
 
 

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