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Arannir
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Jan 24 2013, 9:42am


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I'm not set on one way versus the other, but it will need to be discussed in some manner for the two reactions to be reconciled (i.e. concern absent certainty).



That many people do not like the idea because they want a clearer cut between the Hobbit and LotR.

But I think after AUJ there is no turning back - we will get a six piece Middle-earth saga rather than a seperate Hobbit and LotR.


That is why I agree that the rings should be in there through a second WC scene - I still hope for a shock moment in the Council when Gandalf tells them about Sauron. And then possibly Galadriel starting to speak: "The Enemy... Sauron... Annatar... the traitor..." Depending on what they are allowed to use it could be a flashback including more of Sauron's history (which would nicely show just HOW terrible his return is, even though the major conflict with him won't happen for another 60 years) or be strongely focused on the rings (I would prefer the former, as I think Sauron is more important to the story and the rings should be mere tools of his doings).

It could also be done via explanation only (which might be the case seeing the Saruman B-roll stuff) - but it should be done in a rather simple way. The most important thing is that they are portrayed in connection to Sauron and how he uses them to strengthen his control. It would be catastrophic for the storytelling if the normal audience start to get confused over what ring does what etc. Then it would be better not to mention them at all.
The One has to remain in the audience's mind as the "super ring" or the way it was shown almost as a character in itself in LotR will not work as nicely anymore looking at the 6-movie cycle (that is what Lucas messed up big time with trying to explain the Force). But they managed to pull that off with Galadriel's ring in FotR, so I am positive on that.


(This post was edited by Arannir on Jan 24 2013, 9:45am)

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Why the Rings of Power will HAVE to be discussed in these movies by THe Council, just as the book says. AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Jan 23 2013, 11:23pm
    How much? The Mitch King Send a private message to The Mitch King Jan 24 2013, 4:39am
        It could go either way for me. AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Jan 24 2013, 5:12am
            I know... Arannir Send a private message to Arannir Jan 24 2013, 9:42am
                I think that the DoS prologue would be the most natural place to discuss about the Rings. Lightice Send a private message to Lightice Jan 24 2013, 11:17am
                    In general... Arannir Send a private message to Arannir Jan 24 2013, 11:57am
                A good assesment. AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Jan 25 2013, 12:42am
    Rings need to stay away stoutfiles Send a private message to stoutfiles Jan 24 2013, 1:40pm
        It is not a MUST... Arannir Send a private message to Arannir Jan 24 2013, 2:07pm
            Anyone who wants to know, will stoutfiles Send a private message to stoutfiles Jan 24 2013, 3:09pm
                Who said the rings will be blamed for the greed? Arannir Send a private message to Arannir Jan 24 2013, 3:25pm
                    There is a ring that is likely a Ring on Thror's finger in that prologue. AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Jan 25 2013, 12:58am
        With the Necromancer in the picture, there is little choice. Lightice Send a private message to Lightice Jan 24 2013, 3:29pm
        Why Gandalf would let this ring slide a bit Brethil Send a private message to Brethil Jan 26 2013, 6:55pm
            Addendum Brethil Send a private message to Brethil Jan 27 2013, 2:00am
    Watch this video! I think the rings are in! burgahobbit Send a private message to burgahobbit Jan 24 2013, 2:15pm
    Actually Lindele Send a private message to Lindele Jan 24 2013, 2:19pm
        He does have it in his hands though... Arannir Send a private message to Arannir Jan 24 2013, 3:06pm
        I beg to differ Tintallė Send a private message to Tintallė Jan 24 2013, 4:47pm
            This :) imin Send a private message to imin Jan 24 2013, 5:25pm
        thats how Azog Send a private message to Azog Jan 24 2013, 5:12pm
        I have seen the movie 7 times. He sees him slip it into his pocket. AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Jan 25 2013, 12:52am
    heck jimmyfenn Send a private message to jimmyfenn Jan 24 2013, 11:09pm

 
 
 

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