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rangerfromthenorth
Rivendell
Jan 23 2013, 9:33pm
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Your words are entirely too kind. As far as the Third theme goes i guess one could think of a spirit that gets incarnated from it but I do not see the need being that the Children of Illuvatar are what comes from the third theme. Tom is the spirit of the Music (which is incarnated (in-the-flesh) as we find him) but the third theme is put into flesh via the Eldar and Edain. Would Frodo be that? Well yes and no. Yes, Frodo is part of the theme and one could argue that he is the fulfillment of that theme being his major role of bringing the end of evil of Melkor/Sauron. No, in that this is entirely different than what Tom is, Tom is primarily a spirit being who takes on flesh, and his spiritual origins come from his nature as the representation of the Music, much like Ungoliant does the same with the Discord. Frodo, and all of the Children, are kind of like Middle Earth is, they are manifestations of which find their origins in the themes but they are not primarily spiritual beings representing these themes. In other words, The earth and the children find their existence within the Music and themes, whereas Tom (as my suggestion goes) is the Music in spirit form incarnated on Earth.
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Tom Bombadil As the Spirit of the Music of the Ainur
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rangerfromthenorth
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Jan 17 2013, 4:27pm
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Thanks for this!
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Radagast-Aiwendil
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Jan 17 2013, 8:57pm
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Great Theory
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Lost_istari
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Jan 18 2013, 7:56pm
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Thank you much
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rangerfromthenorth
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Jan 22 2013, 2:07pm
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Agreed
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CuriousG
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Jan 23 2013, 5:53pm
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A quick thought on children of Ainur
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Lost_istari
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Jan 24 2013, 6:46am
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Excellent theory!
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FlyingSerkis
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Jan 23 2013, 9:13pm
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Thank You
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rangerfromthenorth
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Jan 23 2013, 9:33pm
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Regarding Bombadil's boundedness
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Plurmo
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Jan 28 2013, 5:59am
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I Know
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Tolkien Forever
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Jan 30 2013, 8:38pm
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"None has yet defined him, for Tom is an enigma"
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squire
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Jan 31 2013, 1:27am
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Great poem/
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CuriousG
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Jan 31 2013, 1:34am
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Great Poem Indeed
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rangerfromthenorth
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Jan 31 2013, 2:29am
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It is certainly a great topic to debate
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squire
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Feb 1 2013, 3:14am
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a "most" dangerous discussion
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rangerfromthenorth
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Feb 1 2013, 3:32pm
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ATB was published after LOTR.
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N.E. Brigand
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Feb 1 2013, 5:55pm
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yes yes it was
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rangerfromthenorth
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Feb 1 2013, 6:14pm
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thats where the confusion came from
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rangerfromthenorth
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Feb 1 2013, 6:22pm
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Tolkien did alter the poem for its 1962 re-publication.
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N.E. Brigand
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Feb 1 2013, 7:51pm
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Very nicely stated
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squire
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Feb 1 2013, 8:38pm
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This may interest you.
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N.E. Brigand
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Feb 1 2013, 5:46am
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