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Complicate? I'll give you complicate

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Jan 20 2013, 3:48pm


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From the LotR Appendix E:
It appears, however, that Mid-year's Day was intended to correspond as nearly as possible to the summer solstice. In that case the Shire dates were actually in advance of ours by some ten days, and our New Year's Day corresponded more or less to the Shire January 9.
I focused on this in an old RR discussion. Whenever a fan wants to associate Tolkien's calendrical system with the dates we live by today, he or she would do well to consider the above note by Tolkien. All our dates, across the year, are 9 or 10 days ahead of the Middle-earth dates that are given in English as if they were the same. As he puts it, January 9 in the Shire is really January 1 for us.

Thus, if we say that Smaug was killed on October 25, 2941 T.A. within the story, that date should be thought of as being about October 15 in our own time. (I say "about", because the adjustment depends on the various solstices and equinoxes throughout the year, and I don't know the exact calculations required for any given date.) November 1 would translate to around October 22, likewise.



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What date was Smaug killed? peleowyn Send a private message to peleowyn Jan 19 2013, 11:25pm
    ooh...lets see.... ryouko Send a private message to ryouko Jan 20 2013, 12:37am
        Thank you so much! peleowyn Send a private message to peleowyn Jan 20 2013, 12:43am
    And if you really want to complicate it... grammaboodawg Send a private message to grammaboodawg Jan 20 2013, 1:53pm
        gramma, if you can figure out how to link people to your google TiMe calendar... Magpie Send a private message to Magpie Jan 20 2013, 2:51pm
            You got it :) grammaboodawg Send a private message to grammaboodawg Jan 20 2013, 7:36pm
        Complicate? I'll give you complicate squire Send a private message to squire Jan 20 2013, 3:48pm
            That does complicate matters! :) peleowyn Send a private message to peleowyn Jan 20 2013, 4:40pm
            OW!! grammaboodawg Send a private message to grammaboodawg Jan 20 2013, 7:29pm
            Aww, he died on my birthday. Ataahua Send a private message to Ataahua Jan 20 2013, 8:28pm
                Another reason to celebrate that day! :) peleowyn Send a private message to peleowyn Jan 21 2013, 12:55am
                So from now on grammaboodawg Send a private message to grammaboodawg Jan 21 2013, 1:53am
                    oh! Ugh! peleowyn Send a private message to peleowyn Jan 21 2013, 6:58am
        Thank you so much, Gramma! peleowyn Send a private message to peleowyn Jan 20 2013, 4:25pm
    DUrin's Day +1 Otaku-sempai Send a private message to Otaku-sempai Jan 21 2013, 5:03am
        Cool! peleowyn Send a private message to peleowyn Jan 21 2013, 7:00am
        Perfect! And so true :D // grammaboodawg Send a private message to grammaboodawg Jan 21 2013, 10:06am
    I think... Rostron2 Send a private message to Rostron2 Jan 23 2013, 12:18am

 
 
 

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