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Late! Once again!

telain
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Jan 20 2013, 2:09pm


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Late! Once again! [In reply to] Can't Post

(I bet you were wondering where I was in this discussion, sador -- stuck in the Reading Room! How I wish I had seen this post a year ago!)

For those of you wondering what the above comment is about, I recently wrote a thesis on mental imagery in text and film using none other than TheOneRing.net as a case study. No worries! I have no designs to hijack this thread, but I do, of course, find it interesting.

It is a common fear -- that visual images once released will "take over" a story. What I found was that people are able to integrate textual and filmic mental images (or reassert their own images) if the filmic or artistic versions are not compatible. Unfortunately it does take a bit of work...

It is very interesting to me that Tolkien disliked certain artistic renderings of faerie stories; he thought it limited the imagination (which is part of what you are saying here, sador). Yet, he did draw several scenes -- particularly landscapes and places. These things are harder to visualize through text, because they are often large and complex, and frequently our vocabularies don't do them justice.

I wonder, too, if it is the mass-marketness of the film industry that is more to blame. All the merchandise and advertising that is de rigueur for the blockbusters must be a particularly large and unwieldy double-edged sword. On the one hand, more people may be attracted to the books, on the other more people may be misinterpreting what they read or indeed privileging the film versions.

Personally, I think the films help in some ways -- especially for imagining those parts of the books I have trouble with. But I don't take the films wholesale -- I use them as a starting point and modify them to my satisfaction. Sometimes it is easy and Jackson et al have done well. Other times, well, not so well...

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The look of the forbidden pool in Ithilien Calenheniel Send a private message to Calenheniel Jan 11 2013, 12:48am
    I admit that my Middle-earth was shaped by Alan Lee's paintings, Ataahua Send a private message to Ataahua Jan 11 2013, 9:46am
        I found it interesting that Christopher Tolkien cited John Howe and Alan Lee Kassandros Send a private message to Kassandros Jan 11 2013, 3:01pm
            Did he really? ArdamŪrŽ Send a private message to ArdamŪrŽ Jan 11 2013, 3:21pm
                I suppose it's unclear Kassandros Send a private message to Kassandros Jan 11 2013, 3:46pm
                    Ah well that is a little different ArdamŪrŽ Send a private message to ArdamŪrŽ Jan 11 2013, 4:00pm
                    The quote you brought indicates something deeper sador Send a private message to sador Jan 14 2013, 9:35pm
                        Like your point of view a lot, sador  leniel Tindome Send a private message to  leniel Tindome Jan 15 2013, 7:47pm
                            Thank you! sador Send a private message to sador Jan 16 2013, 4:15am
                        Late! Once again! telain Send a private message to telain Jan 20 2013, 2:09pm
                            At the present, I expect prompt responses from none... sador Send a private message to sador Jan 27 2013, 10:03pm
            Ted Nasmith Loresilme Send a private message to Loresilme Jan 12 2013, 10:09pm
                I'm not sure Christopher Tolkien is complaining about any one specific art style... Kassandros Send a private message to Kassandros Jan 14 2013, 7:12pm
                    I'm not familiar with their entire body of work Loresilme Send a private message to Loresilme Jan 14 2013, 7:56pm
                thanks for that link... weaver Send a private message to weaver Jan 16 2013, 11:37pm
                    You're welcome! Loresilme Send a private message to Loresilme Jan 17 2013, 12:15am
    what's interesting to me is how much I did not remember right! weaver Send a private message to weaver Jan 16 2013, 11:32pm
        The Grey Havens also looked totally different in my head Calenheniel Send a private message to Calenheniel Jan 16 2013, 11:39pm
            sombre is a good word... weaver Send a private message to weaver Jan 16 2013, 11:53pm
            Happy ending! squire Send a private message to squire Jan 18 2013, 7:31am
                Chills. Kassandros Send a private message to Kassandros Jan 18 2013, 3:35pm
                    Great Idea  leniel Tindome Send a private message to  leniel Tindome Jan 18 2013, 5:43pm
                That passage gives me chills big time FlyingSerkis Send a private message to FlyingSerkis Jan 18 2013, 7:44pm
                They got the harbor right, and the ship style, and the direction and the time of day... weaver Send a private message to weaver Jan 22 2013, 3:25am

 
 
 

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