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telain
Rohan
Jan 20 2013, 2:09pm
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(I bet you were wondering where I was in this discussion, sador -- stuck in the Reading Room! How I wish I had seen this post a year ago!)
For those of you wondering what the above comment is about, I recently wrote a thesis on mental imagery in text and film using none other than TheOneRing.net as a case study. No worries! I have no designs to hijack this thread, but I do, of course, find it interesting.
It is a common fear -- that visual images once released will "take over" a story. What I found was that people are able to integrate textual and filmic mental images (or reassert their own images) if the filmic or artistic versions are not compatible. Unfortunately it does take a bit of work...
It is very interesting to me that Tolkien disliked certain artistic renderings of faerie stories; he thought it limited the imagination (which is part of what you are saying here, sador). Yet, he did draw several scenes -- particularly landscapes and places. These things are harder to visualize through text, because they are often large and complex, and frequently our vocabularies don't do them justice.
I wonder, too, if it is the mass-marketness of the film industry that is more to blame. All the merchandise and advertising that is de rigueur for the blockbusters must be a particularly large and unwieldy double-edged sword. On the one hand, more people may be attracted to the books, on the other more people may be misinterpreting what they read or indeed privileging the film versions.
Personally, I think the films help in some ways -- especially for imagining those parts of the books I have trouble with. But I don't take the films wholesale -- I use them as a starting point and modify them to my satisfaction. Sometimes it is easy and Jackson et al have done well. Other times, well, not so well...
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The look of the forbidden pool in Ithilien
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Calenheniel
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Jan 11 2013, 12:48am
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I admit that my Middle-earth was shaped by Alan Lee's paintings,
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Ataahua
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Jan 11 2013, 9:46am
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I found it interesting that Christopher Tolkien cited John Howe and Alan Lee
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Kassandros
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Jan 11 2013, 3:01pm
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Did he really?
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Ardamírë
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Jan 11 2013, 3:21pm
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I suppose it's unclear
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Kassandros
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Jan 11 2013, 3:46pm
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Ah well that is a little different
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Ardamírë
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Jan 11 2013, 4:00pm
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The quote you brought indicates something deeper
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sador
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Jan 14 2013, 9:35pm
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Like your point of view a lot, sador
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Êleniel Tindome
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Jan 15 2013, 7:47pm
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Thank you!
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sador
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Jan 16 2013, 4:15am
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Late! Once again!
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telain
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Jan 20 2013, 2:09pm
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At the present, I expect prompt responses from none...
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sador
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Jan 27 2013, 10:03pm
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Ted Nasmith
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Loresilme
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Jan 12 2013, 10:09pm
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I'm not sure Christopher Tolkien is complaining about any one specific art style...
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Kassandros
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Jan 14 2013, 7:12pm
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I'm not familiar with their entire body of work
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Loresilme
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Jan 14 2013, 7:56pm
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thanks for that link...
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weaver
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Jan 16 2013, 11:37pm
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You're welcome!
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Loresilme
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Jan 17 2013, 12:15am
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what's interesting to me is how much I did not remember right!
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weaver
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Jan 16 2013, 11:32pm
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The Grey Havens also looked totally different in my head
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Calenheniel
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Jan 16 2013, 11:39pm
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sombre is a good word...
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weaver
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Jan 16 2013, 11:53pm
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Happy ending!
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squire
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Jan 18 2013, 7:31am
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Chills.
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Kassandros
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Jan 18 2013, 3:35pm
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Great Idea
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Êleniel Tindome
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Jan 18 2013, 5:43pm
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That passage gives me chills big time
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FlyingSerkis
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Jan 18 2013, 7:44pm
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They got the harbor right, and the ship style, and the direction and the time of day...
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weaver
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Jan 22 2013, 3:25am
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