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Nerven
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Jan 18 2013, 11:16pm


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OK, who would qualify as the centre of the elven history besides Feanor and Luthien? Maybe other things were more important for the Eldar than building cities and fighting wars. Galadriel may not haven beeing the queen of an elven kingdom, but she was the only one of the rebels who was unaffected by Mandos curse. (she alone never died) So she obviously made always the right decision and was throughout the ages very helpful.

In the end she was able to return by the grace of the Valar to Valinor as the only one who was undefeated (kind of) and she always remained true to her self, never lost hope and wanted the best for ME, but never in an aggresive way, like esstablishing a kingdom or control Men or something like that.

She never craved for her own kingdom, although it was her reason for leaving (in one version) but preferred learning lore from Melian and helping the people of ME. (leaving Beleriand in one version to unite wood elves and men against the dark lord and that not being approved in Beleriand or the mist she send to guard Eorls troops, she alone percieved that they couldnīt trust Annatar. I know Elrond and Gil-Galad didnīt trust him to, but I think in respect to Galadriel it was more explicit, something like that he beared her scorn with outward patience and that Sauron percieved at once that she would be his chief obstacle and of course her mistrust of Saruman. I do not recal that the other mistrusted him )
She had her dremas but her rationality was always stronger it seems, while Turgon for example was not able to abandon his kingdom as Ulmo advises him, because he became too proud. Or Fingolfin who went to fight Morgoth with hardly hope to survive that. Donīt get me wrong, that was very brave, but IMHO kinda pointless, I know Morgoth was after that for ever injured but it never hinded him that much. I just donīt see Galadriel behaving that rush, there is it again: Rationality! But thatīs not surprising, Tolkien described her to be brilliant in mind. Not to say that the other elves are dumb, but if he emphazises that in the case of Galadriel, I think she is outstanding in that aspect and called the equal of Feanor who is said to be the most subtle in mind.

Sure all those high kings had more glory, but had they in the end greater effect than Galadriel (if we leave out their decendants, thatīs destiny, nothing they self achieved) I think there could be much talk about her, alone the possibility that she, or more correctly her hair was the inspiration for the Silmaril. She is the only elf we know of which had a need for power and glory, more than her cousins IMHO, but she never became evil because of that, unlike her half uncle or his sons.

I think there is much to say about her in Valinor. She is IMHO more multifacated than Feanor ( who is kind of a bad boy) and Luthien (the Mary Sue) she is from everything a bit. Alone her reasons for leaving Valinor and staying in ME are not that easy to figure out, and her inner turmoil. The need for being Queen (political animal) and the need for being a nice person ( a wife and mother) and her take on the Valar. One the one hand she loves them, on the other hand she is annoyed by them and doesnīt want the tutelage anymore.

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she had dreams of far lands and dominions that might be her own to order as she would without tutelage. Yet deeper still there dwelt in her the noble and generous spirit of the Vanyar, and a reverence for the Valar that she could not forget.

I could write entire books about her if I were an author.


(This post was edited by Nerven on Jan 18 2013, 11:25pm)

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Chief matter? Nerven Send a private message to Nerven Jan 18 2013, 7:28pm
    I vote #2 CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG Jan 18 2013, 8:14pm
        Tolkiens mind Nerven Send a private message to Nerven Jan 18 2013, 8:24pm
            Greatness vs quantity CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG Jan 18 2013, 10:07pm
                Who would? Nerven Send a private message to Nerven Jan 18 2013, 11:16pm
                    Second Age mistory (mist plus history) Elthir Send a private message to Elthir Jan 19 2013, 1:49am
                        Eregion Nerven Send a private message to Nerven Jan 19 2013, 7:53am
                            Another example Nerven Send a private message to Nerven Jan 19 2013, 8:20am
                            Galadriel of Eregion Elthir Send a private message to Elthir Jan 19 2013, 6:18pm
                                Eregion Nerven Send a private message to Nerven Jan 19 2013, 8:03pm
                                    external chronology Elthir Send a private message to Elthir Jan 20 2013, 5:19pm
                                        Galadriel Nerven Send a private message to Nerven Jan 20 2013, 7:46pm

 
 
 

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