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When you put it that way, it is a hole

CuriousG
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Jan 16 2013, 2:21am


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I also find it troubling that the Valar are supposed to be Guardians of the World, yet they surrender most of the world to Melkor--is that what Guardians do? Then it seems a little bit insulting that they let the rest of the world suffer under his corruption while they create their own private paradise. If I was one of the first Elves and came to the Sea and saw Happy Aman in the distance, I wouldn't have a good first impression of these other Valar in their exclusive country club all lit up by magic tree light while I was in the dark.

Maybe the logic that saves it all is that the wars are constant, and they risk killing the newborn Elves by mistake if the wars continue. Exterminating Eru's Children seems far worse than letting them spring to life in a world darkened by Melkor. Then there's the question of why doesn't Eru do something about it, or at least tell them when his Children will be born, but you don't get very far questioning God, who moves in mysterious ways.

It would also make sense that the Valar are immortal, so spending a few centuries or millenia with nothing to do but wait for new creatures to appear, you might as well get busy and do what you do best, which is make a beautiful land. In that regard they aren't selfish or irresponsible, they're just being patient and keeping busy, taking a short break in their conflict with Melkor, not giving up.

And maybe Tolkien was setting the Valar up to be flawed in this way to give some validity to Feanor later on? Where are those boats?!

Subject User Time
The Silmarillion discussion: Of the Beginning of Days noWizardme Send a private message to noWizardme Jan 14 2013, 4:29pm
    a lamp theory :), returning evil, and beautiful trees hanne Send a private message to hanne Jan 15 2013, 2:47am
        2 trees CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG Jan 16 2013, 2:59am
    Time and Valinor elevorn Send a private message to elevorn Jan 15 2013, 3:58pm
        Lamps, regrouping evil and selfish Valar noWizardme Send a private message to noWizardme Jan 15 2013, 8:29pm
            yes, it does elevorn Send a private message to elevorn Jan 15 2013, 8:43pm
                When you put it that way, it is a hole CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG Jan 16 2013, 2:21am
    Inevitable evil Mim Send a private message to Mim Jan 15 2013, 10:35pm
        Is evil logical or intuitive? CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG Jan 16 2013, 2:08am
            logical and intuitive? telain Send a private message to telain Jan 16 2013, 4:50pm
            The reader knows evil when they see it Mim Send a private message to Mim Jan 17 2013, 11:38am
                The next chapter is underway ! noWizardme Send a private message to noWizardme Jan 24 2013, 9:42pm
    Even immortal elves can't escape Death and Taxes (VATs) CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG Jan 16 2013, 2:53am
        Nature is violent... Otaku-sempai Send a private message to Otaku-sempai Jan 16 2013, 3:59pm
            TV nature specials CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG Jan 16 2013, 7:42pm
    Very late answers sador Send a private message to sador Feb 4 2013, 3:23pm
        Very welcome answers: I don't think "late" is a problem! // noWizardme Send a private message to noWizardme Feb 4 2013, 3:32pm
        Secretly an Ent? CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG Feb 4 2013, 7:37pm

 
 
 

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