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Inevitable evil

Mim
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Jan 15 2013, 10:35pm


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I would say that the idea that evil always returns is at the very core of Tolkien’s writing. It is key, perhaps, that the conflict around which LotR is based is not the original war of the ring, it is the repeat. One explanation that exists within the text is that those who are good, do not understand the nature of evil. The reverse of that argument is of course also key, what is evil does not understand how it is to be good. Anyway the point is that those that are good often make the mistake of seeing the possibility of redemption in those that are evil. This is of course, as we find out later, why Melkor manages to keep causing problems despite being defeated on a few occasions. Each time the forces of good fail to strike the killing blow and allow Melkor to live and return. Perhaps more generally what this indicates is the willingness of people to allow evil to exist. Tolkien constantly presents us with characters from otherwise “good” peoples that are tempted to or in danger of becoming in some sense evil. Or rather, who are tempted to do evil. I would suggest that perhaps what these cycles and the constant presence of evil suggests is that evil…is necessary. Though perhaps necessary is the wrong word, perhaps the word is inevitable. From the very beginning of creation, Melkor seeks to create disharmony. There is hardly a time when there is no evil and therefore how can you ever hope to destroy something that is an integral part of the fabric of your world? I think the answer that Tolkien is getting at is that you can’t.

Subject User Time
The Silmarillion discussion: Of the Beginning of Days noWizardme Send a private message to noWizardme Jan 14 2013, 4:29pm
    a lamp theory :), returning evil, and beautiful trees hanne Send a private message to hanne Jan 15 2013, 2:47am
        2 trees CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG Jan 16 2013, 2:59am
    Time and Valinor elevorn Send a private message to elevorn Jan 15 2013, 3:58pm
        Lamps, regrouping evil and selfish Valar noWizardme Send a private message to noWizardme Jan 15 2013, 8:29pm
            yes, it does elevorn Send a private message to elevorn Jan 15 2013, 8:43pm
                When you put it that way, it is a hole CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG Jan 16 2013, 2:21am
    Inevitable evil Mim Send a private message to Mim Jan 15 2013, 10:35pm
        Is evil logical or intuitive? CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG Jan 16 2013, 2:08am
            logical and intuitive? telain Send a private message to telain Jan 16 2013, 4:50pm
            The reader knows evil when they see it Mim Send a private message to Mim Jan 17 2013, 11:38am
                The next chapter is underway ! noWizardme Send a private message to noWizardme Jan 24 2013, 9:42pm
    Even immortal elves can't escape Death and Taxes (VATs) CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG Jan 16 2013, 2:53am
        Nature is violent... Otaku-sempai Send a private message to Otaku-sempai Jan 16 2013, 3:59pm
            TV nature specials CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG Jan 16 2013, 7:42pm
    Very late answers sador Send a private message to sador Feb 4 2013, 3:23pm
        Very welcome answers: I don't think "late" is a problem! // noWizardme Send a private message to noWizardme Feb 4 2013, 3:32pm
        Secretly an Ent? CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG Feb 4 2013, 7:37pm

 
 
 

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