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Time and Valinor

elevorn
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Jan 15 2013, 3:58pm


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I never have a problem or question of time, what is time to an immortal God or demigod? The elves have not come into the picture yet and are simply intimating what was passed down to them when they were in Valinor. So I think the essence of time is more for our understanding, when you live forever time seems to be a non issue and more of hinderance to keep up with, that is until you begin to keep records of the mortals around you who seem to die so quickly and easily.

The descriptions and foward jumps we get I feel are logical. The elvish writer (I'm assuming an elf here, apologies if I am wrong and have missed something), is telling us what we have been told and what he/she actually knows. There were no witnesses to the creation and wars of the Valar other than the participants, yet the elves knew exactly what Valinor was and what the trees were like, so it seems more logical that we have a clear description of a known entity.

A question that I always come up with is why the Valar begin to become so enamored with their own creation at this time. yes they are supposed to be making Arda a better place, but it seems that the seeds of selfishness begin to creep into their minds and deeds at this point in time, Yavanna and her trees, the stars, the waters, the mountains the winds. The withdraw to Valinor and make a nice place basically abandoning ME to the darkness because Melkor keeps breaking their toys, like a bully in preschool he knocks over every block tower they make. Anyone else have thoughts on that?



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The Silmarillion discussion: Of the Beginning of Days noWizardme Send a private message to noWizardme Jan 14 2013, 4:29pm
    a lamp theory :), returning evil, and beautiful trees hanne Send a private message to hanne Jan 15 2013, 2:47am
        2 trees CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG Jan 16 2013, 2:59am
    Time and Valinor elevorn Send a private message to elevorn Jan 15 2013, 3:58pm
        Lamps, regrouping evil and selfish Valar noWizardme Send a private message to noWizardme Jan 15 2013, 8:29pm
            yes, it does elevorn Send a private message to elevorn Jan 15 2013, 8:43pm
                When you put it that way, it is a hole CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG Jan 16 2013, 2:21am
    Inevitable evil Mim Send a private message to Mim Jan 15 2013, 10:35pm
        Is evil logical or intuitive? CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG Jan 16 2013, 2:08am
            logical and intuitive? telain Send a private message to telain Jan 16 2013, 4:50pm
            The reader knows evil when they see it Mim Send a private message to Mim Jan 17 2013, 11:38am
                The next chapter is underway ! noWizardme Send a private message to noWizardme Jan 24 2013, 9:42pm
    Even immortal elves can't escape Death and Taxes (VATs) CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG Jan 16 2013, 2:53am
        Nature is violent... Otaku-sempai Send a private message to Otaku-sempai Jan 16 2013, 3:59pm
            TV nature specials CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG Jan 16 2013, 7:42pm
    Very late answers sador Send a private message to sador Feb 4 2013, 3:23pm
        Very welcome answers: I don't think "late" is a problem! // noWizardme Send a private message to noWizardme Feb 4 2013, 3:32pm
        Secretly an Ent? CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG Feb 4 2013, 7:37pm

 
 
 

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