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a lamp theory :), returning evil, and beautiful trees

hanne
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Jan 15 2013, 2:47am


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a lamp theory :), returning evil, and beautiful trees [In reply to] Can't Post

Nice summary!


I have same problem with physics :) But one thought - I understood that at this point the world was flat. So the equator part could have had overlapping direct lamplight (depending on how they were angled towards the earth) and the north/south parts just light from one lamp each.


Re evil, I had thought that Tolkien was generally more concerned with how each individual became evil - which choices and attitudes led to that ruin. I hadn't thought in terms of evil as a force (or an unstoppable, in the long run, force). But now you point it out, it is true that both Melkor and Sauron each made three runs at world domination.

(hopefully cryptic enough to be non-spoiler version of what I mean:
M1: world wrecker pre Spring of Arda. M2: where we are now M3: a certain leaguer.
S1: werewolves. S2: Numenor. S3: a certain one ring.)

Though I suppose Morgoth gets a fourth in a final battle. But since it seems he will not win it, I think that ends the cycle. And LOTR also seems fairly clear that Sauron has shot all chances of coming back. Even the Music gets resung - in other words, the return of evil is not inevitable.


P.S. if you would like to sit back and have a zen moment of pure beauty, I recomend popping "two trees of valinor" into google image search and looking at the mosaic of results... gorgeous!

Subject User Time
The Silmarillion discussion: Of the Beginning of Days noWizardme Send a private message to noWizardme Jan 14 2013, 4:29pm
    a lamp theory :), returning evil, and beautiful trees hanne Send a private message to hanne Jan 15 2013, 2:47am
        2 trees CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG Jan 16 2013, 2:59am
    Time and Valinor elevorn Send a private message to elevorn Jan 15 2013, 3:58pm
        Lamps, regrouping evil and selfish Valar noWizardme Send a private message to noWizardme Jan 15 2013, 8:29pm
            yes, it does elevorn Send a private message to elevorn Jan 15 2013, 8:43pm
                When you put it that way, it is a hole CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG Jan 16 2013, 2:21am
    Inevitable evil Mim Send a private message to Mim Jan 15 2013, 10:35pm
        Is evil logical or intuitive? CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG Jan 16 2013, 2:08am
            logical and intuitive? telain Send a private message to telain Jan 16 2013, 4:50pm
            The reader knows evil when they see it Mim Send a private message to Mim Jan 17 2013, 11:38am
                The next chapter is underway ! noWizardme Send a private message to noWizardme Jan 24 2013, 9:42pm
    Even immortal elves can't escape Death and Taxes (VATs) CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG Jan 16 2013, 2:53am
        Nature is violent... Otaku-sempai Send a private message to Otaku-sempai Jan 16 2013, 3:59pm
            TV nature specials CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG Jan 16 2013, 7:42pm
    Very late answers sador Send a private message to sador Feb 4 2013, 3:23pm
        Very welcome answers: I don't think "late" is a problem! // noWizardme Send a private message to noWizardme Feb 4 2013, 3:32pm
        Secretly an Ent? CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG Feb 4 2013, 7:37pm

 
 
 

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