Our Sponsor Sideshow Collectibles Send us News
Lord of the Rings Tolkien
Search Tolkien
Lord of The RingsTheOneRing.net - Forged By And For Fans Of JRR Tolkien
Lord of The Rings Serving Middle-Earth Since The First Age

Lord of the Rings Movie News - J.R.R. Tolkien
Do you enjoy the 100% volunteer, not for profit services of TheOneRing.net?
Consider a donation!

  Main Index   Search Posts   Who's Online   Log in
The One Ring Forums: Tolkien Topics: Reading Room:
Doubt he was a Vala

Fredeghar Wayfarer

Jan 12 2013, 9:40pm

Views: 544
Doubt he was a Vala [In reply to] Can't Post

The idea of humans becoming Valar doesn't fit with Tolkien's later writings. I would imagine that part was abandoned. The later prophecy of the Dagor Dagorath stated that Turin will return for the final battle with Morgoth. He will come from beyond the Circles of the World, from wherever Men go after they die. But as all this comes from the History of Middle-earth series, there's no telling what Tolkien would have kept or rejected if he'd published those writings himself.

I didn't recall the part about Ancalagon returning. That was probably meant to be similar to the Ragnarok stories of Norse myth where Thor battles the world-serpent Jormungand. Not sure how Ancalagon would return from death as well. Spirit freed from the Void by Morgoth?

This page gives a good summation of the Dagor Dagorath: http://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Dagor_Dagorath

Subject User Time
Turin a Vala? Nerven Send a private message to Nerven Jan 12 2013, 7:59pm
    Doubt he was a Vala Fredeghar Wayfarer Send a private message to Fredeghar Wayfarer Jan 12 2013, 9:40pm
        Last Battles Elthir Send a private message to Elthir Jan 14 2013, 12:01am
    I don't think there is a "final" word sador Send a private message to sador Jan 14 2013, 10:01pm
        I never saw Turin slaying Melkor as a problem or an unlikely event within the myth ElendilTheShort Send a private message to ElendilTheShort Jan 16 2013, 1:06am


Search for (options) Powered by Gossamer Forum v.1.2.3

home | advertising | contact us | back to top | search news | join list | Content Rating

This site is maintained and updated by fans of The Lord of the Rings, and is in no way affiliated with Tolkien Enterprises or the Tolkien Estate. We in no way claim the artwork displayed to be our own. Copyrights and trademarks for the books, films, articles, and other promotional materials are held by their respective owners and their use is allowed under the fair use clause of the Copyright Law. Design and original photography however are copyright © 1999-2012 TheOneRing.net. Binary hosting provided by Nexcess.net

Do not follow this link, or your host will be blocked from this site. This is a spider trap.