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Lightice
Lorien
Jan 11 2013, 10:38pm
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and even felled by The Balrog, though he was Returned. This is about the creation of a scenario in which he is not merely vulnerable, but clearly subordinate to one of the High Elves of Middle-Earth. How is being saved by an elf make Gandalf "subordinate" to them? Why do you think that the world of Middle-Earth works on Dungeons & Dragons power levels? Comprehend this: even the grand-master of Krav Maga can end up killed by an untrained thug with a broken bottle under the wrong circumstances. Even a scared civilian can smash the skull of a Navy Seal if they are distracted. It's ridiculous to set up a line and state: "No elf can perform above this, no Maia can perform under this". Gandalf is fallible and vulnerable, and needs friends and supporters to succeed in his great work. Without them he is doomed. It does not matter if he is more powerful and dangerous than any of them could ever hope to be -- though I would argue that as Gandalf the Gray he is quite limited compared to many of his White Council compatriots -- he can still fail and fall, and needs others to catch and help him if he does. You are offended by the very possibility that Gandalf might need help from someone who is not on what you consider to be his power level. I say that this is an absurd thing to get peeved about and demonstrates total misunderstanding of Gandalf's character, and even the basic values on which Tolkien wrote the LotR-trilogy. The great and mighty can't do all their fights alone. They need the "lesser" folk and would not be able to last without them.
Worry is the appropriate response for something that you don't want to see happen, but are concerned may come to be. That is not what your posts sound like. As far as I am able to see you have already decided what this scene will be like, based on nothing more than a few lines from an interview, and are actively trying to start a picket line to stop it like only you could stop it and it was the most important thing in the world. Your worries and fears are based on nothing concrete and would be downright comical in their exaggerated magnitude if you didn't take them so damn seriously.
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Protesting in advance to the notion of Galadriel carrying Gandalf like a babe in arms, as though she were an angel of mercy.
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AinurOlorin
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Jan 11 2013, 7:06am
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lol what makes you think this will happen? //
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lurtz2010
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Jan 11 2013, 7:27am
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It was reported in an EW article. There was a link to it in an earlier post on this board.
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AinurOlorin
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Jan 11 2013, 7:50am
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Agreed
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JWPlatt
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Jan 11 2013, 8:33am
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That has been a worry since I heard Phillipa comment on Galadriel
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AinurOlorin
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Jan 11 2013, 8:48am
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I love the idea...
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Elutherian
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Jan 11 2013, 8:19am
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I can certainly see Gandalf
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Rolfina
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Jan 11 2013, 8:33am
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Do we know the circumstances of how he ends up over her shoulder?
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imin
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Jan 11 2013, 8:29am
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I am inclined to agree with you here.
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AinurOlorin
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Jan 11 2013, 8:51am
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Yeah i wouldnt like it
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imin
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Jan 11 2013, 8:59am
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Girls generally aren't stupid.
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Bumblingidiot
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Jan 11 2013, 2:27pm
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I agree with this but it aint going to happen
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imin
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Jan 11 2013, 5:08pm
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They turned Aragorn into an exile
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Plurmo
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Jan 11 2013, 11:11pm
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It was fighting talk.
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Bumblingidiot
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Jan 12 2013, 2:13am
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That's a veritable lecture on Galadriel's power and the dangers of devotion.
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Plurmo
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Jan 12 2013, 5:46am
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'ultimate xena warrior' <- *gag* loool //
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Xanaseb
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Jan 11 2013, 2:28pm
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Faaaar out
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ElendilTheShort
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Jan 11 2013, 8:45am
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Just curious...
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frodolives
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Jan 12 2013, 2:20pm
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LOTR-Council of Elrond he is shorter than Elrond & Glorfindel although this does not neccessarily make him short
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ElendilTheShort
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Jan 12 2013, 9:08pm
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I'd accept it on one condition.
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Mooseboy018
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Jan 11 2013, 8:53am
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I'll wait to see how the scene plays out
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DanielLB
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Jan 11 2013, 9:03am
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Galadriel was hardcore in the Silmarillion
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Scourge of the Stoors
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Jan 11 2013, 9:37am
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Actually, nowhere in the SIL is there any detail of exactly what Galadriel did that was "hardcore"...
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Eleniel
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Jan 11 2013, 11:05am
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In The Silmarillion as written by J.R.R. Tolkien
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Voronwë_the_Faithful
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Jan 11 2013, 3:45pm
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Yes, but that's not "detail"...
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Eleniel
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Jan 11 2013, 3:54pm
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I knew you were going to say that! //
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Voronwë_the_Faithful
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Jan 11 2013, 3:56pm
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It isn't the being carried alone that is the problem, as I have said in earlier postage.
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AinurOlorin
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Jan 11 2013, 10:03pm
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Wait and see....
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dormouse
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Jan 11 2013, 12:32pm
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A wait and see approach would have left you with Arwen at Helm's Deep. . .
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AinurOlorin
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Jan 11 2013, 10:08pm
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No, I don't believe it would.
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dormouse
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Jan 11 2013, 11:10pm
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Arwen at Helm's Deep
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Ardamírë
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Jan 11 2013, 11:56pm
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This.
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Arannir
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Jan 12 2013, 1:41pm
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We shall see...
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Lightice
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Jan 12 2013, 5:02pm
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Yet it was important, as it derailed Sauron's initial plan. The retreat and return to Mordor was
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AinurOlorin
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Jan 12 2013, 5:42pm
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It's impossible that Galadriel would carry Gandalf
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RalphDamiani
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Jan 11 2013, 12:37pm
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I'm not worried
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Kullervo
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Jan 11 2013, 1:00pm
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100% Agreed.
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Arannir
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Jan 11 2013, 1:05pm
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I don't get what there is to be upset about
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dubulous
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Jan 11 2013, 1:21pm
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I really wish that the straw man of whether or not she would be capable of carrying him would stop being raised.
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AinurOlorin
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Jan 11 2013, 10:29pm
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Ridiculous scene
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stoutfiles
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Jan 11 2013, 1:24pm
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Funny you say it's made up by PJ
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Arthael
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Jan 11 2013, 3:43pm
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Thank you.
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Lightice
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Jan 11 2013, 3:56pm
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It is made up by PJ
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stoutfiles
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Jan 11 2013, 4:04pm
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Why would floating be "predictable"?
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Lightice
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Jan 11 2013, 4:13pm
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This is a very good point
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DanielLB
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Jan 11 2013, 4:19pm
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But let them all be bruised, certainly only him, nor all but her.
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AinurOlorin
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Jan 11 2013, 11:30pm
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That would be "he".
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Lightice
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Jan 11 2013, 11:50pm
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Galadriel is shown as otherworldly all the time
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stoutfiles
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Jan 11 2013, 4:22pm
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Just "what-ifs"?
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Lightice
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Jan 11 2013, 4:25pm
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Galadriel is shown as otherworldly
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Kullervo
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Jan 11 2013, 4:35pm
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Hundred facepalms
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Lightice
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Jan 11 2013, 1:33pm
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The scene is completely made up by PJ
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stoutfiles
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Jan 11 2013, 1:40pm
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*sigh*
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Lightice
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Jan 11 2013, 1:55pm
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Okay, fair enough...
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Eleniel
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Jan 11 2013, 2:50pm
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My ideas based on magazine snippets
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TheSexyBeard
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Jan 11 2013, 11:44pm
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Thanks for clearing the air.
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Rostron2
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Jan 11 2013, 5:33pm
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Thank you Lightice!
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Beren0nehanded
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Jan 11 2013, 2:00pm
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How wrong you are. We have seen him defeated by Saruman, and placed in dire straits
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AinurOlorin
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Jan 11 2013, 10:22pm
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Does not compute.
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Lightice
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Jan 11 2013, 10:38pm
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I agree....
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MorgolKing
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Jan 11 2013, 2:26pm
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There's little drama in the original Dol Guldur storyline...
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burrahobbit
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Jan 11 2013, 3:20pm
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We need to start a picket line in Wellington!
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Kassandros
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Jan 11 2013, 3:21pm
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Is this irony?
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Arannir
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Jan 11 2013, 4:26pm
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Sarcasm, not irony
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Kassandros
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Jan 11 2013, 5:34pm
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:D
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Arannir
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Jan 11 2013, 5:38pm
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Well said!
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ashonmytomatoes
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Jan 11 2013, 5:56pm
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No one is infallible
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Istaris'staffs
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Jan 11 2013, 5:14pm
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Um..
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MorgolKing
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Jan 11 2013, 5:26pm
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Why would Galadriel...
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Arannir
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Jan 11 2013, 5:36pm
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The TT movie does not show Galadriel's part in rescuing Gandalf
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Kassandros
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Jan 11 2013, 5:37pm
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That's the only thing
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Rostron2
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Jan 11 2013, 5:47pm
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Gandalf
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Nerven
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Jan 11 2013, 8:56pm
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Yes, well said, and I completely agree it's logical and plausible that she's powerful
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Rostron2
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Jan 11 2013, 9:46pm
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Exactly.
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AinurOlorin
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Jan 12 2013, 1:56am
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Eru / Iluvatar
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sharku
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Jan 11 2013, 9:59pm
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what strikes me most about this
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Elenorflower
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Jan 11 2013, 11:40pm
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Galadriel vs The Istari
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Benevolent
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Jan 13 2013, 8:54pm
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