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AinurOlorin
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Jan 11 2013, 10:29pm
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I really wish that the straw man of whether or not she would be capable of carrying him would stop being raised.
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I do not doubt that she could lift and carry Azog if she wanted to. It is not her physical strength at issue, nor the fact that she is female. I would be as troubled by the notion of Elrond carrying Gandalf IF there had been recurring implication that Elrond was somehow the superior of The Istari. It is all about the portrayl and circumstances. I do not have any problem with the notion of Galadriel being able to lift Gandalf. I do not have a problem with Gandalf not being portrayed as unassailable, for he is not, regardless to Lightice's flippant misread of my comments. What I have a massive problem with is the possibilty of Galadriel being portrayed as exponentially greater in power and prowess than The Istari. As I said, if they are both seriously injured in this battle, and Gandalf just happens to come down on the wrong side of the misfortunes of battle, okay. . . but if she is seen as pristine as ever, with nary a hair out of place and no sign of having taken harm, save a few smudges of dirt and a tired look about the eyes, and then she lifts, angel of mercy style, a beaten down Gandalf out of the wreckage. . . too much. One little paragraph tells us absolutely nothing. We don't know anything about the context and we don't know if this will even happen in the movie. A lot of things get filmed that end up playing no part at all in the movie. Even if this does happen though, I find the idea nothing but intriguing. Whether it'll work depends on how it's carried out of course but the concept certainly has potential in my opinion. Galadriel was called Nerwen for a reason. If Gandalf finds himself in a situation where he needs to be carried (because powerful as he may be, he's not invincible), there is no reason why Galadriel wouldn't have the strength to carry him as much as anyone else, and the fact that she is a woman shouldn't make it a problem when she's been described as being "strong of body, mind, and will, a match for both the loremasters and the athletes of the Eldar in the days of their youth". "Hear me, hounds of Sauron, Gandalf is here! Fly if you value your foul skins, I will shrivel you from tail to snout if you step within this circle!" "Do not be to eager to deal out death in judgement. Even the very wise cannot see all ends."
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Protesting in advance to the notion of Galadriel carrying Gandalf like a babe in arms, as though she were an angel of mercy.
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AinurOlorin
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Jan 11 2013, 7:06am
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lol what makes you think this will happen? //
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lurtz2010
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Jan 11 2013, 7:27am
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It was reported in an EW article. There was a link to it in an earlier post on this board.
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AinurOlorin
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Jan 11 2013, 7:50am
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Agreed
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JWPlatt
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Jan 11 2013, 8:33am
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That has been a worry since I heard Phillipa comment on Galadriel
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AinurOlorin
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Jan 11 2013, 8:48am
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I love the idea...
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Elutherian
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Jan 11 2013, 8:19am
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I can certainly see Gandalf
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Rolfina
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Jan 11 2013, 8:33am
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Do we know the circumstances of how he ends up over her shoulder?
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imin
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Jan 11 2013, 8:29am
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I am inclined to agree with you here.
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AinurOlorin
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Jan 11 2013, 8:51am
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Yeah i wouldnt like it
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imin
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Jan 11 2013, 8:59am
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Girls generally aren't stupid.
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Bumblingidiot
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Jan 11 2013, 2:27pm
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I agree with this but it aint going to happen
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imin
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Jan 11 2013, 5:08pm
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They turned Aragorn into an exile
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Plurmo
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Jan 11 2013, 11:11pm
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It was fighting talk.
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Bumblingidiot
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Jan 12 2013, 2:13am
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That's a veritable lecture on Galadriel's power and the dangers of devotion.
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Plurmo
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Jan 12 2013, 5:46am
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'ultimate xena warrior' <- *gag* loool //
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Xanaseb
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Jan 11 2013, 2:28pm
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Faaaar out
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ElendilTheShort
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Jan 11 2013, 8:45am
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Just curious...
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frodolives
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Jan 12 2013, 2:20pm
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LOTR-Council of Elrond he is shorter than Elrond & Glorfindel although this does not neccessarily make him short
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ElendilTheShort
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Jan 12 2013, 9:08pm
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I'd accept it on one condition.
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Mooseboy018
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Jan 11 2013, 8:53am
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I'll wait to see how the scene plays out
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DanielLB
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Jan 11 2013, 9:03am
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Galadriel was hardcore in the Silmarillion
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Scourge of the Stoors
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Jan 11 2013, 9:37am
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Actually, nowhere in the SIL is there any detail of exactly what Galadriel did that was "hardcore"...
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Eleniel
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Jan 11 2013, 11:05am
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In The Silmarillion as written by J.R.R. Tolkien
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Voronwë_the_Faithful
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Jan 11 2013, 3:45pm
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Yes, but that's not "detail"...
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Eleniel
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Jan 11 2013, 3:54pm
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I knew you were going to say that! //
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Voronwë_the_Faithful
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Jan 11 2013, 3:56pm
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It isn't the being carried alone that is the problem, as I have said in earlier postage.
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AinurOlorin
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Jan 11 2013, 10:03pm
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Wait and see....
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dormouse
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Jan 11 2013, 12:32pm
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A wait and see approach would have left you with Arwen at Helm's Deep. . .
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AinurOlorin
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Jan 11 2013, 10:08pm
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No, I don't believe it would.
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dormouse
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Jan 11 2013, 11:10pm
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Arwen at Helm's Deep
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Ardamírë
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Jan 11 2013, 11:56pm
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This.
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Arannir
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Jan 12 2013, 1:41pm
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We shall see...
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Lightice
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Jan 12 2013, 5:02pm
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Yet it was important, as it derailed Sauron's initial plan. The retreat and return to Mordor was
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AinurOlorin
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Jan 12 2013, 5:42pm
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It's impossible that Galadriel would carry Gandalf
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RalphDamiani
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Jan 11 2013, 12:37pm
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I'm not worried
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Kullervo
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Jan 11 2013, 1:00pm
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100% Agreed.
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Arannir
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Jan 11 2013, 1:05pm
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I don't get what there is to be upset about
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dubulous
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Jan 11 2013, 1:21pm
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I really wish that the straw man of whether or not she would be capable of carrying him would stop being raised.
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AinurOlorin
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Jan 11 2013, 10:29pm
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Ridiculous scene
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stoutfiles
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Jan 11 2013, 1:24pm
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Funny you say it's made up by PJ
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Arthael
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Jan 11 2013, 3:43pm
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Thank you.
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Lightice
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Jan 11 2013, 3:56pm
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It is made up by PJ
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stoutfiles
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Jan 11 2013, 4:04pm
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Why would floating be "predictable"?
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Lightice
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Jan 11 2013, 4:13pm
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This is a very good point
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DanielLB
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Jan 11 2013, 4:19pm
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But let them all be bruised, certainly only him, nor all but her.
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AinurOlorin
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Jan 11 2013, 11:30pm
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That would be "he".
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Lightice
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Jan 11 2013, 11:50pm
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Galadriel is shown as otherworldly all the time
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stoutfiles
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Jan 11 2013, 4:22pm
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Just "what-ifs"?
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Lightice
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Jan 11 2013, 4:25pm
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Galadriel is shown as otherworldly
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Kullervo
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Jan 11 2013, 4:35pm
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Hundred facepalms
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Lightice
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Jan 11 2013, 1:33pm
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The scene is completely made up by PJ
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stoutfiles
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Jan 11 2013, 1:40pm
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*sigh*
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Lightice
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Jan 11 2013, 1:55pm
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Okay, fair enough...
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Eleniel
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Jan 11 2013, 2:50pm
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My ideas based on magazine snippets
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TheSexyBeard
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Jan 11 2013, 11:44pm
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Thanks for clearing the air.
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Rostron2
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Jan 11 2013, 5:33pm
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Thank you Lightice!
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Beren0nehanded
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Jan 11 2013, 2:00pm
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How wrong you are. We have seen him defeated by Saruman, and placed in dire straits
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AinurOlorin
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Jan 11 2013, 10:22pm
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Does not compute.
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Lightice
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Jan 11 2013, 10:38pm
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I agree....
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MorgolKing
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Jan 11 2013, 2:26pm
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There's little drama in the original Dol Guldur storyline...
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burrahobbit
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Jan 11 2013, 3:20pm
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We need to start a picket line in Wellington!
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Kassandros
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Jan 11 2013, 3:21pm
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Is this irony?
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Arannir
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Jan 11 2013, 4:26pm
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Sarcasm, not irony
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Kassandros
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Jan 11 2013, 5:34pm
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:D
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Arannir
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Jan 11 2013, 5:38pm
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Well said!
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ashonmytomatoes
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Jan 11 2013, 5:56pm
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No one is infallible
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Istaris'staffs
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Jan 11 2013, 5:14pm
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Um..
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MorgolKing
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Jan 11 2013, 5:26pm
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Why would Galadriel...
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Arannir
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Jan 11 2013, 5:36pm
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The TT movie does not show Galadriel's part in rescuing Gandalf
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Kassandros
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Jan 11 2013, 5:37pm
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That's the only thing
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Rostron2
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Jan 11 2013, 5:47pm
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Gandalf
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Nerven
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Jan 11 2013, 8:56pm
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Yes, well said, and I completely agree it's logical and plausible that she's powerful
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Rostron2
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Jan 11 2013, 9:46pm
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Exactly.
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AinurOlorin
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Jan 12 2013, 1:56am
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Eru / Iluvatar
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sharku
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Jan 11 2013, 9:59pm
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what strikes me most about this
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Elenorflower
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Jan 11 2013, 11:40pm
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Galadriel vs The Istari
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Benevolent
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Jan 13 2013, 8:54pm
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